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JTL\'s or WL?
Old 03-30-2004, 09:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi group. Does anybody uses JTL lights? How would those compare with White Lighting? How about accessories? I'm about to get new lighting system for my studio, and location work(portraiture, weddings)I know the difference in price, but is it worth it?
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The JTL's are pretty cheaply made. I was thinking about getting some of the JTL's until I held one in my hands. Everything is flimsy on them. I consider them pretty much junk. White Lightnings are bullet proof, they take all kinds of use/abuse and keep on working and working and working. I used WL's for years and had no complaints about them.

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Don't know much about JTLs but I can vouch for White Lightnings. At a former newspaper I worked at, we used those extensively (the 1600s and 800s) -- very nice product. Of course, with the paper footing the bill the cost of them didn't hit me in the wallet. You may want to also explore Alien Bees. That is the set up I got -- same guts as the WLs but plastic instead of metal casings. Still a pretty sturdy and reliable product. Here is their website, give em a look.

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Old 03-30-2004, 10:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thank you for replies. I'm considering WL because it has steples power adjustment, where Alien Bees has 5 steps (I think). Also important factor is remote control.
Can somebody tell me more about WL accessories? Soft boxes,and add on's.
Is it possible to use with WL other manufacturers like Photoflex,Westcott,or Chimera domes or light banks?
Thanks a lot.
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I would suggest the photoflex softboxes instead of the ones from WL. The ones WL sells aren't as sturdy and they go together funny. Any Balcor type mount will work with the WL and Alien Bee lights.

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Old 03-31-2004, 12:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thank you very much. This is exactly what I wanted to know.
Is there anything else that I would have to know before investing?
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Paul Buff has a wonderful warantee. If it screws up you send it in and it's back to you quickly. I know that from experience too.
I can't remember how many years the warantee is but it's better than any other I've seen.
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Buy da Bee\'s...
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The Alien Bee's have a stepless slider for output control, the "5 stops" refers to the number of stops adjustment range as in F stop, not positions on a switch. The plastic used in the cases is GE's Lexan, the same tough plastic used for cases of high dollar portable radios the cops carry. Takes a lickin', keeps on tickin'.

BTW, Alien Bee's is a spinoff of Paul C. Bluff. The accessories are pretty good stuff. The softbox is a challenge to assemble the first few times, there are a couple of tricks that make it easier.

I'm pretty sure Alien Bee's use the same remote control as the White Lightnings.

Accessories attach via the speedring. If you are buying accessories which won't fit White Lightning/Balcar... maybe you ought to rethink the accessory.

One important consideration; you can upgrade the Alien Bee's. Say you buy a 400 and find that you really need the extra zap of an 800. You can send it back and get it changed to an 800 for a very nomimal fee.

Funny name, quirky ads, good price, excellent service, reliable. Buy da Bee's.

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For what it's worth, I've been hauling around three JTLs in a duffel bag, wrapped only in a muslin backdrop, for three years for location work in people's homes, in the park, at the river, at weddings, etc. Never had a single problem with them. They may not have the luxury car feel of other lights, but I'd buy them again. - Tim
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Thank you very much who took time to respond.
I think I'm gonna lean to WL. It should last me some time.
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