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S1 vs E10
Old 12-07-2002, 12:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone here used/owned both? Yes, I know they are one generation behind, they are not the newest cams out there but here is my dilema/problem/question:

This week I went to a friend's house, he had an S1 collecting dust, as how he puts it is "too pro" for him. He asked me if I wanted to trade my E10 for that S1. My E10 is a year and a half old and have used it pretty frequently, his is a 6 month old S1 who has not used much at all.

When I was doing my research for cameras those two happened to be my choices, I ended up buying the E10 for price reasons.

I am happy with the OLY, it works fine for what I do. I also have always wanted/liked the S1, I just dont like the fact that the lowest ISO is 320 and I dont like the fact that the OLY's highest ISO IS 320 ( and shutter is 640 ).

Question is ( After all that writing ) to those of you who have used both or owned both, is it worth trading a used E10 for a new S1. Worth noting that my 35mm outfit is Nikon, so I pretty much do not need to buy lenses for it.

Any help is appreciated.

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Make the Trade...
Old 12-07-2002, 12:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You're not really serious are you? You are getting twice the camera for nothing... MAKE THE TRADE! Or tell him I'll buy him a E-10 for the S1.

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Re: Make the Trade...
Old 12-07-2002, 01:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Care to explain your comment Christian.

I have the Both E20 and The S2. I'd like to know what your comment means.

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I Am Going Through The Same Question...
Old 12-07-2002, 01:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi Dax,

I own an E-10. Love the image quality, hate the write speed. I am shooting mostly concerts and other live events these days and the slow write times and the top ISO of 320 are limiting.

Anyway, a camera store local to me has several used S-1s in practically mint condition with a 90-day warranty for a reasonable price. Alot less than the S2, which I just can't afford. Like you I have tons of Nikon 35mm equipment so lenses aren't an issue.

The S1 users I have talked to all like their cameras. Noise doesn't seem to be a problem at ISO 320...they say less than the grain you would see even with the better ISO 400 films. I never found the noise on my E-10 at ISO 320 to be objectionable. Sometimes a little more in the shadow areas, but that is the price you pay for higher ISO setting, either in the film or the digital world.

In my opinion, based on what I have been told, it is a good step up. I won't be trading my E-10, it has served me well. But I do think I will be making that step up soon...

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Old 12-07-2002, 10:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks all!

I made the decision and Im gonna trade it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks for all the imput!
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Old 12-07-2002, 11:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Simple... with all of the features in a row, adding the Nikon lenses to the mix, what possible reason would one have to keep an Oly vs. the S-1? I'm a fan of good glass, and I haven't yet heard massive discussions about the amazing glass produced by Olympus... Nikon on the other hand... I've had an S-1, and it performed nicely.

Then again, why would someone want both? I can understand someone wanting a 6X4.5, a 6X6, and a 6X7 along with a 35mm and a Digital... but why have both digitals? Is there a point to the two? Is there a massive difference in the operations of it that call for each? Why not dump the weaker and invest the money into more and better glass for the one?

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Re: Simple
Old 12-08-2002, 12:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have used both cameras professionally and commercially, and while the S2 is a better overall camera than the E20, there are still benefits to the E20.

Why keep two digitals? Because professionals need backup, and until such time comes that I invest in another S2 AND more lenses (gotta have backup), the E20 gives me the benefit of a very capable camera WITH a fixed lens of 35-140mm 2.0 that takes care of a lot of my needs. It also is one of the only digitals with a noise reduction mode that actually duplicates the images you just took (in camera), and eliminates any pixels that do not match up in both images (those being noise). Not a bad feature. The fixed lens also eliminates dust issues on the CCD and has a macro mode at 8".

The E20 has taken care of ALL of my commercial needs for close to a year, but that's MY needs. It's not for sports photographers or fast shooters. yes it's slow with a 4 shot buffer, but like any camera, you deal with the cons to get the pros.

Just curious if you ever have used an E10 or E20 personally?
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Re: S1 vs E10
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You are in a unique position.
If your friend is not using the camera ask hi if you can borrow it for a day or two. Then run some "film" through it to see how it handles for you and that way you can also check the image quality to see it it meets your expectations.

 
 
I was curious?
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Dave, have you had any difficulty with DOF on the oly? I shoot an e10 and am about to make the switch to the S2. My main reason for considering the change is the idea of being able to switch the lens. I have the 1.8 tele converter and macro lens which help, but I have been somewhat frustrated with the standard lens on the e10 in this capacity. Any suggestions? Thanks....
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My complaint with the OLY DOF is that it isn't shallow enough. F 2.0 on the Oly is like 5.6 on an independent lens.

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