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shooting model with a white background ?
Old 09-19-2003, 05:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have tried this before and never liked the results. It seems that the white back ground makes the model look so dark. I use the Nikon d100 and I am not very happy with spot metering. I am useing hot lights and no flash. Is there a trick to making this setup work better ?

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Re: shooting model with a white background ?
Old 09-19-2003, 07:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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mike,
i do not shoot digital (yeah i know...a dinosaur. i'm holding out for the d200) and i do not use hot lights, and although i'm extremely happy with my f100's spot metering capabilities, i've found the use of a flashmeter to be a great asset (if not a necessity) for studio light use.

keep up the good work.

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Re: shooting model with a white background ?
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This may be a dumb question, but you do know if you meter a white wall with a spot meter that it will actually shoot gray ?

if this is a dumb question, sorry, if not, then what you should understand is that your meter is trying to get a 18 % gray reading. If you shoot a white wall, it will under expose it to make it gray. The flip is is you shoot a black wall, it will over expose it to make that gray also.

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I shoot white backdrops regularly. Use backlighting and the model does not show up too dark. I either use 1, 2 or bank lighting in the background. Hope this helps.

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Old 09-19-2003, 02:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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First you need to get a hand held flash meter...

then meter you subject and the back ground seperatly...if you subject reads F8 then the back ground should read F11 or so... its also a good idea to have back lights to kill the shadows...
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Re: shooting model with a white background ?
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It's funny, There seems tobe to schools on flash meters..some say they have not used it since they went digital. Others say they use it all the time. Anyway thanks for everyones input. I will just have to practice on it all weekend..

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Separation lighting is key....(N)
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in high key lighting.

I use the widest white seamless paper I can get (11' width) into my studio.

This shot was taken using two White Lightning X3200's (with soft boxes) set at varying power levels for main and fill lighting. I used two Novatron's for separation.

Other technical attributes:

Model: Kelley Jean
Camera: Olympus E-10
Mode: Manual
Shutter: 1/320
Aperature: F8.0
ISO: 80

 
 
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Mike,

Just for the record,

I use my light meter more now than when shooting film. Digi is like chromes, you get 1 stop up and down, thats all, film gives you 2 - 3 stops up and down.

I dont know if its just me getting old but I love to meter everything now.

I also dont trust studio lights, if I break for over 10 minutes, I remeter them before I start shooting again.

I find I also meter daylight more now also. I think its just I am getting more creative and thus need better readings.

regards,

David.

This show was metered with my Minolta flashmeter 5 I took a reading almost in the middle section of the blue, shot it.

I then shot it again, 2 stops down to bring the bottom part in, it was blown out before. I then overlayed the bottom section.

I had a great deal of help with this image from Hackman I have to add.

 
 
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Hi Rick,

I concur. I'm very happy with my F100 but there is no replacement for a good flash meter for studio work. Besides, I don't know of any camera that has flash meter capabilities so, as you said, a flash meter in the studio is definitely a necessity.

Good day!!

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masking david...nice results.
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