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Good All Around Shoot anything Lens?
Old 11-18-2002, 01:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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First off is there such a thing and if so what is it?

I read somewhere the other day that sigma has made a f/2.8 28-200, has anyone used this thing yet?

I current have a sigma 28-200 that is f/3.5-5.6 and like it but would like to have a little bit faster lens like this one

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Re: Good All Around Shoot anything Lens?
Old 11-18-2002, 10:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Clint: Like many, I looked for that perfect do it all lens. In the meantime I have also picked up some lenses that I would have never bought as part of a package deal, etc. I now have several 28-80's (Nikon and Sigmas) an 18-35 Nikon, an 80-200 2.8 Nikon, a 170-500 Sigma, a 70-300 Sigma, and a 28-200 Nikon.

I also have prime Nikon lenses at 50 (1.4) 85 (1.8) and 135 (DC 2.0)

Except for the 80-200 2.8 Nikon and 170-500 Sigma and the 18-35, it wouldn't bother me a bit if someone stole the rest of my zooms

Prime's always shoot better since they are purpose built around only one focal lenght. Zooms, generally represent a tradeoff in image quality in exchange for the convenience they offer.

I have never regretted buying a single fast prime lens. I have about six zooms I could do without.

The best zoom in the bunch is the 80-200 2.8 but it is a $900.00 lens.

If you can afford it, I would go with a nice 80-200 2.8.

If you can't, I would suggest either a fast 50 or 85 mm.

I can work around the loss of zoom range (well, unless I am at the zoo and just can't get any closer) but would trade zoom range for speed in low light over all else. I can think of few shots I missed because I couldn't zoom in or get closer, but I can think of 100 shots I missed because the shutter speed was too slow with available light.

Tamron makes a 28-300 that I have heard good things about, but I have never used it.

I can tell you if image sharpness is critical to your style, go with primes. I can look at my photos and in most cases tell you which lens was used to take the photo based upon how crisp it is. Prime's are crisp, zooms aren't, in comparison, unless you are talking high dollar glass, and most people looking for an all in one lens are trying to save some money.

The Nikon Silent waves are fantastic for zooms, but primes are still sharper at their respective distances.
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Old 11-20-2002, 01:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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look at the Tamron 28-105 2.8 zoom
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Old 12-19-2002, 04:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I use Vivitar Series 1 F3.5 70-210 and F2.8 35-85 zoom. The best one of the 70-210 series was the middle of the 3 versions they made as it was multicoated but had an extremely good macro capability. The F2.8 (last) version didn't focus that close and the 35-85 doesn't focus that close either in macro mode. I would like to get the Tamron f2.8 fixed arperture zoom. I prefer fixed arperture lenses as the depth of field doesn't vary as you change focal length. These always cost a lot more money (lot more glass in them). Zoom lenses no matter how high a quality will have more flare than single length lenses but in a hot and heavy shooting spree I don't want to take time to swap lenses. I have a ton of single length lenses but have only used them a few times. Of the two zooms I prefer the 70-210 because of it's closer macro capability and one-touch zoom. I end up picking lenses by their close focusing capability of I am looking at several similar lenses.

I have not seen any longer zoom ranges that have a decent image quality, despit what reviews may say.
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Old 12-20-2002, 09:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It depends on your style, but I don't think that there is such a thing. My favorites are 20-35mm and 70-200mm. I have several fixed focal length lenses, which I love, but they lack the versatility of zooms. I bought a Tamron 24-70mm lens several years ago, but seldom use it. Most of the all in one lenses either don't go wide enough or don't go long enough. I tend not to shoot in the mid range. One thing that I do look for now is a lens that has a stationary front element so that filters don't rotate while focusing. This is usually the case on good lenses, but not always. One lens, that I think is available, that I would like to have is a 28-105 f2.8, but this will only happen if I get a digital camera with 1.6 or so multiplier.

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Old 12-21-2002, 09:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Those zooms aren't bad choices. Another good one (not really one specifically as I don't know what camera system you're using) would be a 50mm f/1.4 or 35mm f/2.0 prime, assuming you're shooting 35mm. Extremely good focal lengths, more or less mimic "normal" human vision so there's nothing gimicky about the perspective, extremely versitile, fast and light on the camera. These "normal" prime lenses, by the way, tend to be of higher optical quality, all things being equal, than wide-angles, telephotos, and zooms, as well as faster and generally the least expensive. You will pine for a longer length at times with people, though.
 
 
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A good all around lense is a 35mm 2.8 or 2.0.
You can almost always move closer.
An old editor of mine once told me to throw away my 180mm 2.8, he wanted to see images that make the viewer feel as if they are there.
Shorter lenses tend to be more intimate then longer lenses.

I tend to stay away from zoom lenses for most of my work.

Another good all around lense is an 85mm 1.8

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