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Lack of space on my studio for EOS 40D with 50mm
Old 01-20-2009, 06:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I'm new on photography and need some help, please.
I have my home studio almost already set up but I'm still confused about the best choice of camera and lens.

I'll work with glamour photography and I need to take full body pictures.
The problem is that I only have about 3 meters of space between me and the model.

I've tried a Canon 40D with 50mm 1.8 lens.
The results are very nice for half body pics but, the problem is that I don't have enough space to work comfortably on full body pictures.

I'd like to know if there is any kind of lens that would offer no distortion on pictures and at the same time offers a larger angle to suit the model.

I've tried an 24mm but there was distortion on the image.
The girls look shorter and fatter, and definitely they don't like it.

I'm also considering changing to a Canon 5D MkII or maybe the Nikon D700.

Will the full frame resolve my problem?
I'm going to have more available space in this case, right?

Should I buy a good lens and a cheaper 40D or keep my 50mm 1.8 and buy an 5D?

What about the Nikon D700 with a 50mm 1.4?

Thanks a lot!!
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Re: Lack of space on my studio for EOS 40D with 50mm
Old 01-20-2009, 10:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum.

In short, no. You're learning that the focal length affects the angle of the shot, but also the apparent perspective. If you want less distortion, you need to move further away from the model and use a longer focal length.

Or learn to accommodate the distortion - or to use it to your advantage.

Check out Lee Higgs - used to shot most wide angle stuff.
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Re: Lack of space on my studio for EOS 40D with 50mm
Old 01-20-2009, 12:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi,

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I'll work with glamour photography and I need to take full body pictures.
The problem is that I only have about 3 meters of space between me and the model.
While this actually does not answer any of your questions, perhaps the suggestion will be something you can try.

If the room has a door located in the middle of the wall opposite your background, there is a way to gain some distance between the subject and you. Hopefully the diagram will explain. I had to do this a time or two when I was on location.

Actually you will be standing in another room. Not an ideal situation and you might loose some rapport with the model, but you can also cut a window in the wall and pass her some cookies and a soft drink through that .. (just kidding)
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Re: Lack of space on my studio for EOS 40D with 50mm
Old 01-20-2009, 03:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thank you both for very helpful explanations.

Actually I have exactly the situation shown on Ben's diagram, including the window for cookies and drinks.
That's true, I already have this small window from my kitchen on the same wall as the door.
Definitely I'll will use all suggestions and probably will use the small window to shoot as well.


I'm sorry to insist on the same question again.
My doubt is if the following diagram I made is true or false.

I'm considering that me and the model are in the same distance on both cases and the cameras are with the same lenses (50mm).
Since the full frame sensor will give me a true 50mm would the difference of the pictures and view finder be like shown on diagram?
I mean, if on the 40D I have the model almost touching the edges, on the 5D I'd have more free space because of larger sensor size?



Sorry but I couldn't get a 5D to make this test and I don't want to take the risk to spend a lot of money if it wouldn't solve my problem.

I've been asking this question on some photo stores here and I'm getting different and opposite answers.

Thanks again
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Re: Lack of space on my studio for EOS 40D with 50mm
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mmmmm my distance from model to where I shoot from is also around that distance, I dont have much problems using a 28mm-105mm shooting full length. I have a 50mm and I can get a full length with my back clear up against the wall sitting down on the floor, but the 28-105 gives me more flexibility....
Im not that knowledged on focal lengths and distortion, so if I sound like an idiot, I pretty much am!

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Re: Lack of space on my studio for EOS 40D with 50mm
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I have a similar problem with space and focal length multiplication (I shoot w/ an Olympus E-300). I prefer using my 14-45mm zoom or 35mm macro lens for full length indoor shots, but either I'm pinned against the wall or the subject is. I've found between 30-35mm (60-70mm 35mm) to be a "sweet" spot. If I use the garage I can sneak my 40-150mm at 40mm (80mm 35mm) in for a shot, but I'm faced with the pinned to the wall situation. As mentioned a zoom will give you options, but keep the prime lens too!
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Re: Lack of space on my studio for EOS 40D with 50mm
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I just upgraded from the Nikon D300 to the full frame D700 and yes, if I stand in the same position, I can now get full length shots of the model without changing my lens. So, if space is a concern, a full frame camera will help your situation.
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Re: Lack of space on my studio for EOS 40D with 50mm
Old 01-21-2009, 06:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks guys!!!
I really appreciate your help.
I choose and bought the camera already.
I hope I have some pictures soon to post here.
Now I have loads of manuals and books to read ;-)
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Re: Lack of space on my studio for EOS 40D with 50mm
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Google search: "50mm angle of view"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_view

Google search: "50mm field of view"

http://www.bobatkins.com/photography...d_of_view.html

Go down to the section "Calculating Field of View" and Bob has a calculator that you can input values of lens length, crop factor and distance from subject to get not only angles but actual dimensions for horizontal, vertical and diagonal field of views. Given that you want full body length shots read the horizonal FOV and use that as you will have turned the camera on its side to get a vertical image.

I read that you have a full frame camera now. This calculator is still useful as your crop factor becomes "1". He also gives the various factors for the different makes of cameras.

Rolando should look at 'borrowing' this from Bob and installing it here on GG...or at least put a link to it.
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Re: Lack of space on my studio for EOS 40D with 50mm
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Google search: "50mm angle of view"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_view
Very, very interesting indeed!!!!
Thanks a lot.
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