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What am I doing wrong " over powering the sun "
Old 10-04-2008, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here is what I did and I am not happy with the results.

1. I metered the sun light on a tree trunk. f16

2. Now to over power the sun I set my flash to f18

3. Then set my camera to f18 and took a shot. I shot it in the afternoon.

4. What I want to do is expose for the flash and have the background just a little darker. Here is what I ended up with.. I did it over and over with the same problem having the background way to dark and the tree to bright.

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Old 10-04-2008, 07:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What was your shutter at. You could open it a little longer to burn that exposure in.
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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125th at f18. I metered it with my flash meter like all the other times. Should I have used the spot metering setting in the camera ?
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Re: What am I doing wrong " over powering the sun "
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Which side of the tree did you meter? I would have taken an average reading of the background, then set my flash a half stop or so hotter then that.
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Personally, I would have gone for something around f/11. The meter was most likely an incident light meter, and that it's not considering the flash. Plus I've found that using a flash at higher f/stops gives this effect.
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Re: What am I doing wrong " over powering the sun "
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Here is what I did and I am not happy with the results.

1. I metered the sun light on a tree trunk. f16

2. Now to over power the sun I set my flash to f18

3. Then set my camera to f18 and took a shot. I shot it in the afternoon.

4. What I want to do is expose for the flash and have the background just a little darker. Here is what I ended up with.. I did it over and over with the same problem having the background way to dark and the tree to bright.
Go to Doug Box handout. It downloads a pdf file that Doug put out for his lighting seminar. Read it and, based on your image, I would say that you need to follow Method 1. I would also highly recommend going to one of Doug's seminars if it comes near you. Not only is he a very engaging speaker, he gives you your monies' worth in information.

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I'd open up the shutter a little more to lighten the background. Remember continuous light sources are affected by both the shutter and aperture.
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Go to Doug Box handout. It downloads a pdf file that Doug put out for his lighting seminar. Read it and, based on your image, I would say that you need to follow Method 1. I would also highly recommend going to one of Doug's seminars if it comes near you. Not only is he a very engaging speaker, he gives you your monies' worth in information.

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Thanks for the link and I agree Method 1 would work best for this shooting situation.
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Re: What am I doing wrong " over powering the sun "
Old 10-05-2008, 07:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Which side of the tree did you meter? I would have taken an average reading of the background, then set my flash a half stop or so hotter then that.
I metered right in front with the meter set on ambient light. The sun is normaly at f16 just as it metered. I then set it back to flash metering and set the camera f18 and set the flash to meter at f18. Now that I have thought about it. I never checked the exposure with out the flash with the camera. That should have let me see what the background would look like.
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This is what I want the result to look like. Tracer posted these a while ago. He shot these in the hot sun just like what I was doing.

http://www.glamour1.com/forums/nudes...-part-4-a.html
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