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Old 04-18-2008, 07:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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No I am not a pole dancer, don't thiink there is a pole hefty enough for me!

THere is a new dance studio opening in my area and pole daning is one of the types they offer. I want get a sultry feel to the photo while at the same time stop the "action". I attached a sample that did neither of these. Any help as to how to proceed? I am using a D3 and SB-800's. I am thinking my lens (Tamron 28-75) is not sharp enough opened up.

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Old 04-18-2008, 08:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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No I am not a pole dancer, don't thiink there is a pole hefty enough for me!

THere is a new dance studio opening in my area and pole daning is one of the types they offer. I want get a sultry feel to the photo while at the same time stop the "action". I attached a sample that did neither of these. Any help as to how to proceed? I am using a D3 and SB-800's. I am thinking my lens (Tamron 28-75) is not sharp enough opened up.

Thanks in advance.

Jim

I've used the Tamron 28-75 and I found it to be very sharp. In fact for glamour it was too sharp in most cases. I think what you are dealing with is just not focusing on the proper spot. But tell us more about the exact camera settings. Were you shooting in one of the programmed modes with the flash firing? What fstop, what shutterspeed?

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A Tamron 28-75 shot at f2.8

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Re: A little help with pole dancing
Old 04-18-2008, 10:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks like a great photo opportunity, and I do understand your problem, I also shoot Nikon with the SB800

Well lets say I have taken a few shots of pole dancers (hmmm) watch her go through the dance/act while warming up at least once so you get a feel for what she is going to do in the act/dance so you know where to be to get the best shoots.

I usually broke mine down into to groups and each would have there own effect. Group one is the dance studio/Bar look that you have here. The image is softer and the background is lighted and drifts off to out of focus but you can still see the furniture walls, flowers and people also looks like you turned up the ISO Speed, although that grain just might be the room light.. You can easily improve on this with a few steps like camera in manual mode, Focus set to center only, white balance set to 6000 or so, shutter at 60 and the fstop will vary a little I like f4-5.6.. You can take the 800 off the camera and move it to the side via a cable or remote mode in manual mode not TTL and the whole picture will look better. If you add a Softbox or defuse the flash with the defuser that comes with the 800 and angel the head toward the ceiling and even try a few with the main flash on as well.

The second type is a studio style the best of both unless you want the (bar) crowd in the picture for effect of the gauker's staring at the dancer. House lights down, Camera in manual mode, Focus set to center only, WB @ 6000, SS@ 125, f4-5.6 Professional strobes and Softboxes 2-3 left right and hair light or if background accent light on a near by wall or backdrop use a Gel for some color when out of focus it still looks great. The effect is great and the shot will be very clear and stop action is a little better at SS125...
Just a couple of things I did to improve my shots for this type of shoot. Have fun !!
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Every time I see a photo with a pole I always think "how different this seems in real life". Also, how different it seems when depicted on TV or in a movie.

I have no experience with this subject (not as a photographer, anyway). But the thing that hits me right between the eyes is that the pole is a very static element and typically robs the image of whatever passion or eroticism might otherwise be communicated through the photo.

As I said, I have no photo experience with this subject, but a thought just occurred to me. If I were to tackle this, I think I would change my perspective to make the pole less static, ie: shoot from a bit above model's eye level or quite a bit lower than, but not so low that I would make her legs or her tush look large or heavy.

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Old 04-18-2008, 07:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Go to a strip club and look at the lighting and how it hits the models' bodies and duplicate that in the studio.

You have flat lighting, poor costume and lackadaisical expression on the models face.

I would have put her in stocking to help with her tone and skin color on her legs and narrowed down the beams of light to highlight areas of interest.
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Sorry for the late response, busy week with high school sports.

So this photo was taken with the D3 and a Nikon 50mm 1.4 at 1/250 and F1.8 with one SB-800 in TTL at ISO 800. Flash was on a light stand and I used a SU-800 to set it off. I use continuous dynamic focus and the focus point was on her right hip. I later switched to the Tamron to get closer without getting in the way. Shot in manual mode.

This was just a practice shot since the shop just opened and the owner and I wanted to meet and I wanted to look around. I plan a more formal shoot next week.
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