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Old 02-10-2008, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I will soon upgrade my current camera and lenses. For the last three years I have used a Nikon 8800 which is not a professional quality camera. Nevertheless, a great deal was learned using it and the modest cost allowed me to buy a set of continuous lights (four Smith Victor Q60's), a studio flash system (Calumet PS4 3000 W*s with four flash heads), and other studio equipment. About 98% of my current work is indoors and uses flash lighting. However, more outdoor work is expected in the future.

Would the Canon EOS 5D be a good choice for a camera upgrade? I am concerned that it is about a 3 year old camera model and, given present market conditions, will probably be replaced by a different model soon. Lenses are another issue. I have tentatively selected the EF 70-200mm f2.8L USM. Do I really need the IS model? Would the lower cost f4.0L model work as well? Also, when funds permit, what additional lenses should be considered?

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Re: Canon EOS 5D or other camera
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The 5D is a real "workhorse" camera in Canon's lineup. I've read everything from late 2007 (which obviously didn't happen) to never (after all, the 5D didn't really have a predecessor). While it may be replaced (and even if it's not, there are other newer models) you'll be happy with the 5D. The only real negatives (in my opinion) is a slow capture rate and the lack of dust control.

As for the glass, I'd really suggest the IS version of the lens. Even if you only need it infrequently, you'll be very glad you have it. I feel the same about the f/stop difference. You may not shoot at 2.8 much, but you'll be glad you have it when you need it. You'll also find it focuses better in low light and works well with a teleconverter. If it's a budget decision, I'd prioritize IS over the f/stop.

I currently shoot with a 40D body and use the 70-200 f/2.8 IS. However, for studio work, I find I use the 28-105 f/4L IS more than any other lens. I highly recommend it.
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Re: Canon EOS 5D or other camera
Old 02-10-2008, 07:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If your worried about the 5d being replaced within the next year, try finding a used one. Or go with a 40d or 30d and put the money into good glass until the new model comes out, which may be a while. There isn't a lot of reason for canon to replace the 5d any time soon. Probably the most compelling reason to buy a 5d is because of the full frame sensor. The 40d, as i'm sure you know has the smaller sensor. And I don't know of anyone else who makes a full frame sensor camera besides Canon. So, there really isn't any need for Canon to upgrade it right now. When sales of 5d's drop off enough, then they will replace it. The 30d, however, had strong competition from Nikon, and to a certain degree, Sony, Panasonic, Olympus, and everyone else. So, they had to keep up, so here comes the 40d.

As for lenses, I bought a 28-70 L and a 70 - 200 2.8 L non IS. If I had it to do all over again, I think I would have bought primes. I personally, with what little I've done, have found that i would like to be further back from the subject when doing a close up shot. I don't really know how a longer then 200 mm lens would work for a close up. the 85mm L lens is supposed to be the be all and end all of portrait lenses. The 135 is supposed to be good too. I would love to know what others use for their "if I have the room" lens. If you go with a 40d and use the standard "fits all Canons" lens, you will get the 1.6 multiplier effect, which will make your standard 50mm into an 85mm (abouts).
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Re: Canon EOS 5D or other camera
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I spoke to a Canon rep friend of mine at a New Years party this past season and he told me the 6D will replace the 5D in late spring or early summer. He didn't know the exact date. But assured me it is coming. He said it will have a a 14+ megapixel sensor, weather seals, live view, bigger screen, yada yada yada, pretty much the 40D and 1D Mark III wrapped into one. So there ya go about that.

Lens wise. It's nice to have that 2.8 when you need it like Chuck said. But it sure is nice to shoot at 1/4 shutter and get a sharp photo too. Get the 2.8 IS if you can. The IS slows down the focus a bit when it's on but not too bad. If you're shooting with strobes most of the time anyway though, you really don't need a fast lens. As for other lenses Canon: 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8 IS, 85mm 1.2 (OH BABY, that one's nice.)

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