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Old 06-18-2007, 12:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I decided, before I invest too much money in to Nikon glass to make the switch and go Canon. I decided that 5d is currently the ideal body (for me) in the Canon line up (1Ds III is not here yet), so I will be selling my D200 and the 2 lenses that I own, and getting the 5d.

Now this is where I need your help:

I know that for glamour and portrait work the 70-200 f/2.8, and the 85 f/1.2 are ideal, and I will be buying both lenses.


I also need an everyday lens that I can slap on the camera when I am out running around with the family. I was thinking the 28-200 f/3.5-5.6, but need some feedback. Everyone I talked to so far has told me that I should only buy canon’s “L” lenses and nothing else. Has anyone used the 28-200 f/3.5-5.6? Is it ok as a knock around lens? Is it good enough to take it on vacation to Europe and shoot historic sites with. Considering the investment I am making in the rest of the equipment, is this lens going to be up to par? Is there an alternative? I am able to invest some additional moneys to get it right, since I am planning on sticking with this glass for many years to come.


I am also considering getting the 24-70 f/2.8, but am not sure if I need it. It would be a nice compliment to the 70-200 f/2.8 and complete the full range for me at 2.8, but I am not sure if I need it. Can it be used as my "every day lens"?


As always I appreciate all of yours feedback.
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Re: Canon Lenses
Old 06-18-2007, 12:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If I was looking for L glass and a good walk around lens I would lean toward the Canon 24-105 F4 IS. Its relatively small and light, and with IS gives up to 3 stops of image stabilization. F4 allows good DOF control and is fixed throughout. Here is one brief review you can look at

https://www.luminous-landscape.com/r...s/28-105.shtml

I use the Sigma 70-200 F2.8 and found it virtually identical to the Canon L lens. They are rated almost identically in reviews. But its not white if that's what you are looking for.

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Re: Canon Lenses
Old 06-18-2007, 12:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If I was looking for L glass and a good walk around lens I would lean toward the Canon 24-105 F4 IS. Its relatively small and light, and with IS gives up to 3 stops of image stabilization. F4 allows good DOF control and is fixed throughout.
In your oppinion, if I get the 24-105 F4 IS, will I still have a use for the 24-70 f/2.8? Or the difference between the F4 IS and F2.8 so small that I should just forget about the 24-70 f2.8? Also, do you think that 105 will be enough zoom for a full frame sensor camera, when I am not carrying any other glass with me?

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I use the Sigma 70-200 F2.8 and found it virtually identical to the Canon L lens. They are rated almost identically in reviews.
It's just my personal preference, but if I can afford it, I rather buy the "name brand" equipment. In no way am I knoking sigma! I think that they make some awsome products, it's just that I would prefer to buy Canon.
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Re: Canon Lenses
Old 06-18-2007, 12:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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In your oppinion, if I get the 24-105 F4 IS, will I still have a use for the 24-70 f/2.8? Or the difference between the F4 IS and F2.8 so small that I should just forget about the 24-70 f2.8? Also, do you think that 105 will be enough zoom for a full frame sensor camera, when I am not carrying any other glass with me?



It's just my personal preference, but if I can afford it, I rather buy the "name brand" equipment. In no way am I knoking sigma! I think that they make some awsome products, it's just that I would prefer to buy Canon.
On the 105 end, you can almost always get closer to something if you need to, but on the 24 end, you sometimes can't get further back. So the 24 is great for those times. Only you will be able to determine if you need more than 105. I rarely find that I do (my walk around lens is a 18-125 on 20D).
The link I gave you talks about the 24-70, so check that out.
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Re: Canon Lenses
Old 06-18-2007, 01:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I recently, a cpl mos ago, bought the 24-105 F4L IS USM,..I haven't shot a lot with it yet, but so far I like it. Last time I looked it was about $70 cheaper than when I bought it at B&H.
I read reviews on it and took the leap,...I wanted the IS because I can't seem to hold steady enough shooting off hand to get the sharpness I want. I use a 20D, so the crop factor gives me 38MM when set to 24MM, but I may upgrade to FF someday so......
According to Canon, the IS makes up 2 or 3 stops difference, so therefore I passed on the 24-70 F2.8.

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Old 06-18-2007, 01:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Simple answer, buy the two you talked about already 85 F/1.2 and the 70-200 IS F/2.8, then buy the 24-70 f/2.8 and you're set. I have the 5D, the 85mm F/1.2, which I use more for glamour, and the main reason I have the 70-200 IS F/2.8 when I'm shooting NBA stuff (sports). Every NBA photographer has one, though sometimes I'll use the Olympus F/2.0 version with their E-volt cameras too. The longer zoom works great for glamour too, but I love that 85mm lens.

For the sake of great glass and sharper shots, lenses are much higher quality at F/2.8 or smaller than F/4.0 and larger. Also stay away from "variable" F/stop lens that change as you zoom. Just fyi, thanks, rg sends!
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Re: Canon Lenses
Old 06-18-2007, 09:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I have and use the 24-70 a lot. The big thing you gain from f2.8 vs f4 is faster auto-focus, especially in lower light, and that (for me) includes studio shooting - I usually have the modelling lights on proportional, and f4 can be insufficient for a quick auto-focus.

I'd also suggest you look at the 135mm f2L - awesomely sharp, and very rapid focus. Cheap, too - about half the price of the 85mm f1.2L. The 135 is a killer lens on the 5D.

BTW: the 24-70 and 24-105 lenses (and the 135, for that matter) are all black, not white. I think the 70-200 (all four L versions) is the shortest white lens in the Canon range. Even the 200mm f2.8 prime is black.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thank you all for your feedback. I decided to go with 3 lenses to start:

70-200 F/2.8 IS

85 F/1.2

And the 24-105 F/4.

It was a hard choice between this lens and the 24-70 F/2.8 but I found out that I can get the 24-105 F/4 as a kit lens and that pushed me over the edge towards the 24-105.

I will get the 24-70 F/2.8 also, but later on. I figured I will get more use out of the 24-105 as an all around family travel type of lens...

Can't wait till Wednesday, that's when all my new toys are coming.
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Re: Canon Lenses
Old 06-19-2007, 03:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Take a look at the Canon 70-200L F4.0. Image quality is excellent and is about $500.

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Old 06-21-2007, 05:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Gotta go with the 17-40L or 16-35L, depending on your budget.

Of course, I am coming from a crop camera...so maybe that's why, but I like having a wide zoom for my main lens. I use it more than my Tamron 28-75 2.8.

It's hard to fault the 24-70....but since you already have an 85 and a 70-200...I would say the best choice is one that covers more of the wide. You can have much more fun with it. You'll have a gap from 35/40 to 70....but the difference between 17mm and 24mm is huge if you as me.

Of course, for the price of the 16-35 2.8....you could buy the 17-40 f4 and a Tamron 28-75 2.8. The tam isn't quite up to the 24-70 2.8L...but it's 90% of the way there. (I have shot with both)

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