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Taking The Plunge Into RAW !
Old 01-28-2007, 11:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been photographing with a digital camera for about 3 years now and so far I have been capturing all of my images as JPEG-Fine but I have heard so much about RAW capture that I want to give it a try. From what I understand RAW doesn't put its own spin on the images like JPEG does and I want to see for myself.

I have a Windows PC with XP Media Center Edition for the OS and I photograph with a Canon EOS 10D and Canon lenses. I know my camera body is a bit older but so far it has served me well and I am look into an upgrade in the near future.

Also, I use Adobe Photoshop Ver 8. Again, I know this is an older version but it works well for me and I like it. Plus, I have heard negative comments about the newer Photoshop CS versions but I will upgrade my Photoshop when the version I have no longer serves me.

My camera saves my images to a compact flash card and I upload my images directly into my computer via a card reader. The question I have is what do I need to process the RAW images in Photoshop? I understand that I need a converter or plug-in (are these two the same thing?)

Also, any tips, suggestions, or hints anyone would care to pass along to me as far as working with RAW images would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: Taking The Plunge Into RAW !
Old 01-28-2007, 11:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You need to download the latest copy of ACR (Adobe Camera RAW) for your version of Photoshop. That will then let you easily include RAW images in your Photoshop workflow. In the past I placed a tutorial in the Digital tools forum for the workflow I use for RAW images. Here is the link:

http://www.glamour1.com/forums/digit...low#post219883

This tutorial is based on CS2 and I believe that you probably are using CS1 (since you said version 8). There is a fair amount of similarity between the two and the Bridge part of the equation, but you'll need to allow for some differences. CS2 added a bunch of valuable stuff for RAW handling and the latest beta of CS3 has a whole bevy of new RAW features, so you may be close to the time you'll want to upgrade and you can just leapfrog from what you have now to CS3 (it will be out in a few months officially).

If you have any specific questions, just post them as a response in this thread and I'll try to help (as well as others).

I shot for years with the 10D and now use the 20D.

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Re: Taking The Plunge Into RAW !
Old 01-29-2007, 08:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have been photographing with a digital camera for about 3 years now and so far I have been capturing all of my images as JPEG-Fine but I have heard so much about RAW capture that I want to give it a try. From what I understand RAW doesn't put its own spin on the images like JPEG does and I want to see for myself.

I have a Windows PC with XP Media Center Edition for the OS and I photograph with a Canon EOS 10D and Canon lenses. I know my camera body is a bit older but so far it has served me well and I am look into an upgrade in the near future.

Also, I use Adobe Photoshop Ver 8. Again, I know this is an older version but it works well for me and I like it. Plus, I have heard negative comments about the newer Photoshop CS versions but I will upgrade my Photoshop when the version I have no longer serves me.

My camera saves my images to a compact flash card and I upload my images directly into my computer via a card reader. The question I have is what do I need to process the RAW images in Photoshop? I understand that I need a converter or plug-in (are these two the same thing?)

Also, any tips, suggestions, or hints anyone would care to pass along to me as far as working with RAW images would be appreciated. Thanks!
Mr. Smith,

Thank you for all of the helpful information. I have printed off your Workflow Tutorial and I will refer to it as I am navigating the RAW image processing.

Where can I find the ACR application? Is this on the Adobe web site or is it elsewhere?

Once again, thank you for all of the great information.
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Re: Taking The Plunge Into RAW !
Old 01-29-2007, 01:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Here is the link:

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html

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Re: Taking The Plunge Into RAW !
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CS2 added a bunch of valuable stuff for RAW handling and the latest beta of CS3 has a whole bevy of new RAW features, so you may be close to the time you'll want to upgrade and you can just leapfrog from what you have now to CS3 (it will be out in a few months officially).
Roger,

Do you know how far off CS3 is from being released? The reason for asking the question is that I am currently using Photoshop Elements. Canon users have until Feb 28th to obtain Photoshop CS2 for US$299.

http://store.adobe.com/store/product...ml?id=catCanon

I am hoping that if I purchase CS2 on the last day, I can still qualify for a free upgrade to CS3. If not, I suspect paying $299 + upgrade fee is still cheaper than waiting for CS3 and paying the full price.

Also, can one purchase CS2, use its serial number to obtain the CS3 beta, and just use the CS3 beta software? In other words, can I avoid loading and immediately replacing CS2?

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Roger,

Do you know how far off CS3 is from being released? The reason for asking the question is that I am currently using Photoshop Elements. Canon users have until Feb 28th to obtain Photoshop CS2 for US$299.

http://store.adobe.com/store/product...ml?id=catCanon

I am hoping that if I purchase CS2 on the last day, I can still qualify for a free upgrade to CS3. If not, I suspect paying $299 + upgrade fee is still cheaper than waiting for CS3 and paying the full price.

Also, can one purchase CS2, use its serial number to obtain the CS3 beta, and just use the CS3 beta software? In other words, can I avoid loading and immediately replacing CS2?

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It's my understanding that you must have an installed copy of CS2 and know its serial #, to install the CS3 beta. I didn't test that however when I got the CS3 beta. I just installed it on the same computer where CS2 was, and during install it asked for the CS2 serial #, which I entered.

I don't have any inside info on when CS3 will be really released (the guess is spring 2007). You know how software release dates seem to be rather nebulous.

Here is a link on the beta details:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/photoshopcs3/

If you get CS2 now, then you could be using and getting used to CS3 now rather than waiting many months to begin fresh with the whole CS process. So you'd be months ahead in the learning curve.

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Re: Taking The Plunge Into RAW !
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It's my understanding that you must have an installed copy of CS2 and know its serial #, to install the CS3 beta. I didn't test that however when I got the CS3 beta. I just installed it on the same computer where CS2 was, and during install it asked for the CS2 serial #, which I entered.

I don't have any inside info on when CS3 will be really released (the guess is spring 2007). You know how software release dates seem to be rather nebulous.

Here is a link on the beta details:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/photoshopcs3/

If you get CS2 now, then you could be using and getting used to CS3 now rather than waiting many months to begin fresh with the whole CS process. So you'd be months ahead in the learning curve.

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Re: Taking The Plunge Into RAW !
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I suspect paying $299 + upgrade fee is still cheaper than waiting for CS3 and paying the full price.
If history serves, yes, it will still result in about a $400 savings...
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Are updates being made to the CS3/Bridge beta? Some features are not available in the version I downloaded last month.

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