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Old 11-22-2006, 05:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi

Does anyone have any experience with these? I'm looking at the DE600/900B pro lights.

Can't find any reviews anywhere so thought I would ask here.

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Re: Falken Eyes/Kenro Lights
Old 11-22-2006, 03:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you sure you have the name correct? I didn't find any evidence on the net that any lights by that name even exist. Could you give a link to someone whose selling them or to the manufacturer's site. Perhaps they are known to some of us but by a different name.
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Re: Falken Eyes/Kenro Lights
Old 11-22-2006, 03:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Here's the link to the Falcon Eyes website http://www.falconeyes.net/home.htm
It's in Chinese though, click on the fourth link on the right-hand side navigation. The specs are in English there. Hopefully the good folk of G1 will help you out. I did have a look at a printed brochure of a local distributer and I must say they have a pretty impressive range of light modifiers, most of them are not even shown on the site.

I'm afraid I haven't heard of the other brand.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Falken Eyes/Kenro Lights
Old 11-22-2006, 07:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Here's the link to the Falcon Eyes website http://www.falconeyes.net/home.htm
It's in Chinese though, click on the fourth link on the right-hand side navigation. The specs are in English there. Hopefully the good folk of G1 will help you out. I did have a look at a printed brochure of a local distributer and I must say they have a pretty impressive range of light modifiers, most of them are not even shown on the site.

I'm afraid I haven't heard of the other brand.

Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info. I guess Pete needs to check the spelling of his brand names. I kept finding all these things about "Falken's maze", etc.

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Re: Falken Eyes/Kenro Lights
Old 11-22-2006, 07:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If these specs are accurate: http://www.falconeyes.net/studio.htm then these lights are exceedingly inefficient. Th DE-600B claims 600W/S, yet only has a guide number of 84 for ISO 100 at 1 meter. Even if this were 3 meters they would be weak. Similarly, the DE-900B claims 900W/S yet has a guide number of 93 for ISO100 at 1 meter.

That means that if your subject was 1 meter from your lights, you would set your aperture to f9 3/10 to get a normal exposure with the DE-900B at full power.

To put that in perspective, an AlienBee B400 (160W/S) (http://www.alienbees.com/b400.html) has a guide number of 112 for ISO 100 at 10' (3 meters). That's f11 2/10 at three times the distance. Or to put it another way, I would expect to see a 900W/S monolight have something around a guide number of 640 to 900 for ISO 100 at 1 meter (f64 to f90)

Personally, I wouldn't recommend these lights to anyone. You have no idea how easy they are to fix or find replacement parts for if something breaks. What is their big draw for you? If it's price, it has been my observation that anything cheaper than an AlienBee should be considered disposable.

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Re: Falken Eyes/Kenro Lights
Old 11-23-2006, 05:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks Guys for the input, won't be buying those.

I don't think I can buy Alien B's in the UK, if I could they would be something I would look at.

I'm down to a few brands called Bowens, Ellincrome or Interfit The accessories all seem very expensive though.

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Old 11-23-2006, 08:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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You can buy Bees just like we can. We have to go to the factory to get them. Not a retail item anywhere. Paul Buff don't sell any other way.

http://www.alienbees.com/

Their other site:

http://www.white-lightning.com/

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Old 11-23-2006, 08:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Isn't the voltage different to the UK?
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:43 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Isn't the voltage different to the UK?
Virtually all European countries use 220 volts in their normal household use. Being in UK he would have to do is what Americn tourists are doing, get a step-down transformer with amper rating that can handle the job.
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Old 11-23-2006, 01:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks Guys for the input, won't be buying those.

I don't think I can buy Alien B's in the UK, if I could they would be something I would look at.

I'm down to a few brands called Bowens, Ellincrome or Interfit The accessories all seem very expensive though.

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Interfits are comparable to AlienBees and in the same price range. Bowens are a little more expensive and come in more powerful configurations. Elinchrom makes very, very good lights and are typically priced accordingly. But they just introduced an inexpensive set of monolights called D-Lites. They are available in 200W/S and 400W/S. They are packaged as a kit: 2 lights, 2 stands, 2 softboxes, and a carrying case. for ~$850/$1000. I don't know how much they will run in the UK, but in the US that price isn't much more than a kit from any of the other manufacturers mentioned in this thread, and they are more consistent, more controllable units that put out at least as much light, if not more.

As far as accessories, any of the kits should be enough to get you started. For things like umbrellas, softboxes, and the like you don't need to stick with manufacturer's accessories. But for additional reflectors, snoots, grid holders, and the like you do.

Any of the brands you mentioned should serve you well. Find out how easy it is to get repair service and replacement parts like modeling lamps and flash tubes.

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