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Old 10-18-2006, 07:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am wanting to put up something to hold some background paper rolls in my studio, but I'm not wanting to pay $600 for one of the systems. I was wondering if anyone had some guerilla photography answers to mounting roll paper from the ceiling?

My ceiling is cement of course and 12' high.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What about metal concrete anchors with utility hooks( the kind that hold bikes and stuff). The you can buy a crossbar and hang the paper from there. It will probably set you back maybe fifty bucks
 
 
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Try mounting pulleys with a metal bar in between that way you caan raise , lower and chnge the backdrop.
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If you aren't sure you can make screws hold in a concrete ceiling, I would suggest standing a 12 ft. 2X6 from floor to ceiling and a 2X4 "t" across the top. Bogen makes some "chain drive" systems that are pretty economical. I have seen this done several times in rented spaces.
I built two frames using angle iron and casters and put the bogen drives on them. Now I have four backdrops on each roll around dolly and can roll them out of the way when I don't need them. Rick from Arkansas "Arkie"
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Check EBAY. I bought 2 sets of chain drive holders for about $30 each including shipping. They work well.
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Model security.

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lol - like the Model Security cclesue

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Don't know about the chain drives but sounds worth checking out.

I saw a PVC system that was releatively inexpensive to make - matter of fact there was sseveral designs for this and one if i remember correctly also had the ability to be dollied around. They were simple but effective holding up to three or four background rolls.

Sorry i don't have a www link handy or i'd post it for you.

Good luck and i love to see what you deside to go with and hear how well what ever you come up with works for you.


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I think you meant the tinker toy system of pvc studio accessories. I don't have the link, either, but i did download it to a pfd doc. Pm or e-mail me, and I can get a copy of it to you.
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Yeah, that's the one that I have. if you need a copy, let me know, it's only 27 pages. I'm curious to see some of your ideas, when you have them built.

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Yeah, that's the one that I have. if you need a copy, let me know, it's only 27 pages. I'm curious to see some of your ideas, when you have them built.

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Be happy to show them to you timmerjean

I'm almost done with my version of a modified Steady cam - just have to finish the gimble part.

built a camera suction mount for the car with a oversized ball head - which i'm pretty proud of. I have to tweak it some more - but i'm happy with it - actually can attach to anything it can get a suction to - glass, walls, anything! I took it out mounted it to a rented 'Stang to test it and shot at around 95mph top speed that night - got some camera shake at that speed and that's what i have to tweak it to stabilize it some more.

You should see the footage - lol - the cars definitly got the heck out of my way that night - lol - which was nice of them - guess word got out that i was filming and once they saw the camera mounted to the hood, knew i was experimenting to see if it would work. i kinda was hoping for a paticular shot style - but with all cars running quick to get off the road, couldn't get it. So i opted for some derby, parking lot fast turn through the puddles stuff -going throught the tunnel was cool though at that speed.

Since your into 3D moding have you checked out 'Meats' work? i had the opportunity to speak with him a few years back before he got famous - glad to see he made it big time - his work is pretty incredable. my faverote being the statue and the driveway statue works. Geoff does some great stuff as well - his works have been televize in europe - states side still is too fluffy stuffy for his work and/or - they just want to make money by charging to view anything decent these days -either way - doubt you can see his stuff other than the web here in the oh so freedomed usa. Maybe one day though. but check his stuff out - you may like it.

Anyhow - send me that pdf if you don't mind - i'd like to look it over again.

and thanks.

Dman65 - have you found a satifactory remedy for what you were looking for as far as your backdrop holder?

fill us in on what you did


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The tinkertubes books has a background holder. Here is the download link:

http://www.software-cinema.com/page/tinkertubes

Another simple method is a two by four and a little spring loader device (or the screw type as shown in the examples below) that you stick on one end and then you just push it up against the ceiling and it stays in place (like those old spring loaded lamp poles with 2 or 3 lamps on them). Use two of these and then extend a rod between. I've built several of these over the years as well as a wall spanning book case that goes all the way to the ceiling.





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