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S4 must have sucked
Old 09-25-2006, 10:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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12.3 MegaPixels (S – 6.17MP, R – 6.17MP)
Three new Film Simulation Modes were added for improved reproduction of natural skin tones
New Real Photo Processor Pro unleashes the full potential of Super CCD SR Pro Technology
New Facial Detection Technology (Post capture Face Zoom allows the photographer to easily and quickly zoom in and confirm facial detail such as focus and exposure on the LCD monitor.)
New commercial grade durable metal alloy frame with password protected feature lockouts
Nikon F-mount compatibility for full functionality with all Nikkor AF-D/G and the lastest AF-S optics
New dual cycle noise reduction algorithms for pristine pictures at 3200 ISO (ISO range from 100 – 3200)
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New RAW + Jpeg simultaneous shooting option
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Compact Flash™ (CF) Card (Type Ⅰ/Ⅱ) and Microdrive™ compatible
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Re: S4 must have sucked
Old 09-25-2006, 11:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That's funny, I'm glad that they've came up to the plate with the next body. I'll bet that they skipped the 4 do to the nature of the word in japanese, since it also carries the term death. My daughter is taking japanese and the teacher was going over this issue. In Japan they don't like to use the number 4 for floors in building much like we don't like 13? Mike
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Re: S4 must have sucked
Old 09-25-2006, 07:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Im not too excited about it... Im sure will get one.. but I was expecting a bit more..
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And the price is...
Old 09-25-2006, 08:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The few price mentions I've seen are "unofficial" but put the price around $2495. If that's it, apparently they think the public will fall for their pricing ploy as they did with the earlier versions.

Not me... I saw the price plummet on the S1, S2 and then again on the S3 so I'll pass on the S5 until it's back down to $1200-$1300 range or less. Not enough sizzle to justify the big bucks...
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Portrait shooters will turn it around in a week. They clearly market it to portrait and wedding photographers not the public. I paid the big buck for the s3 to watch it fall a few months later. Pre-orders before it hit the shelves on the S3 were outrageous and I am sure it will be no different for the portrait shooter to order ahead at that price as well.

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The few price mentions I've seen are "unofficial" but put the price around $2495. If that's it, apparently they think the public will fall for their pricing ploy as they did with the earlier versions.

Not me... I saw the price plummet on the S1, S2 and then again on the S3 so I'll pass on the S5 until it's back down to $1200-$1300 range or less. Not enough sizzle to justify the big bucks...
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Re: S4 must have sucked
Old 09-26-2006, 04:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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A two year old sensor in a D200 body. Wow. Color me underwhelmed. I stayed up to 2 am to wait for the announcement to go official despite a leaked report from Steve's Digicam. Couldn't sleep I was so PO'd.

I might get one when it reaches the current S3 price, but I'm not lining up for it by any means. Cmon who in their right mind releases the same sensor as a "new" camera.

I've said the same on other forums, this isn't a new camera its the S3 MkII or the D200-Portrait. You choose.

Unless Fuji has another waiting in the wings, I've bought my last S-series.
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Re: S4 must have sucked
Old 09-26-2006, 06:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have to agree. Not exactly excited.



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Fuji S5 Pro


CCD23.0x15.5mm APS-C Super CCD SR

23.0x15.5mm APS-C Super CCD SR PRO
ISO100 / 160 / 200 / 400 / 800 / 1600100 / 125 / 160 / 200 / 250 / 320 / 400 / 500 / 640 /
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Shooting ModesD-Range Standard: Max 2.5 fps
- 12 frames max JPEG
- 7 frames RAW

D-Range Wide: Max 1.4 fps
- 6 frames max JPEG
- 3 frames max RAW


D-Range Standard: Max 3 fps
- 52 frames max JPEG
- 24 frames max RAW

D-Range Wide: Max 1.5 fps
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File FormatExif-JPEG, CCD-RAW (14bit)Exif-JPEG, CCD-RAW (14bit),
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Lens MountNikon F with AF coupling, AF contactssame
View FinderFixed eye level pentaprismsame

View Finder CoverageApproximately 93%Approximately 95%
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MediaxD picture card and Compact Flash I & IICompact Flash I & II
Power Source4 AA NiMH batteriesNew Exclusive Li-ion Battery
Exposure Compensation-3.0 EV to +3.0 EV in 1/2 EV steps-5.0 EV to +5.0 EV in 1/3 EV steps
Shutter Speeds30 sec to 1/4000 sec, 1/180 sync 30 sec to 1/8000 sec, 1/250 sync
Shutter EnduranceNot Available100,000 shots
Flash ControlD-TTLI-TTL
Buffer Ram128 MB288 MB
Text InputnoneCompatible Bar Code Reader
GPS InputnoneNEMEA 0183 (Ver 2.01) interface standard supported with 9-pin D-sub cable and GPS cable MC-35 (Nikon) (available separately)
Dimension147.8 x 135.3 x 78.5 (W x H x D)147.0 x 113.0 x 74.0 (W x H x D)

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A two year old sensor in a D200 body. Wow. Color me underwhelmed. I stayed up to 2 am to wait for the announcement to go official despite a leaked report from Steve's Digicam. Couldn't sleep I was so PO'd.

I might get one when it reaches the current S3 price, but I'm not lining up for it by any means. Cmon who in their right mind releases the same sensor as a "new" camera.

I've said the same on other forums, this isn't a new camera its the S3 MkII or the D200-Portrait. You choose.

Unless Fuji has another waiting in the wings, I've bought my last S-series.
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Re: S4 must have sucked
Old 09-26-2006, 11:25 AM   #8 (permalink)
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A two year old sensor in a D200 body. Wow. Color me underwhelmed. I stayed up to 2 am to wait for the announcement to go official despite a leaked report from Steve's Digicam. Couldn't sleep I was so PO'd.

I might get one when it reaches the current S3 price, but I'm not lining up for it by any means. Cmon who in their right mind releases the same sensor as a "new" camera.

I've said the same on other forums, this isn't a new camera its the S3 MkII or the D200-Portrait. You choose.

Unless Fuji has another waiting in the wings, I've bought my last S-series.
Acutally is the same SIZE in megapixels, not really the same sensor.. Fuji believes that image quality is more important than pixel count.

If you visit those digital camera forums, everyone was saying how they would kill to have the s3 sensor ( this one is better ) in a d200 body.. then fuji turns around does just that -with improvements- and now people are bitching LOL

Now, my deal is the price point.. they are known for pricing their cameras way higher, but also, the avg was higher... now that the avg price for a 10mp cam is $1k or less, i wonder how much more can they charge for this one... Im guessing $1800... Then again, the 5d is $3000+
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Re: S4 must have sucked
Old 09-26-2006, 11:59 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Acutally is the same SIZE in megapixels, not really the same sensor.. Fuji believes that image quality is more important than pixel count.

If you visit those digital camera forums, everyone was saying how they would kill to have the s3 sensor ( this one is better ) in a d200 body.. then fuji turns around does just that -with improvements- and now people are bitching LOL

Now, my deal is the price point.. they are known for pricing their cameras way higher, but also, the avg was higher... now that the avg price for a 10mp cam is $1k or less, i wonder how much more can they charge for this one... Im guessing $1800... Then again, the 5d is $3000+
My guess is that it will be 1900 to 2000 but we can only wait. Last time they suggested the S3 would be 2900+ and it was 2499. It will be another 6 months anyway and the reason I am not too excited is what you said, that it looks like everything you would want in a D200 right now but with no earth shattering excitement. I'll get one because I am a firm believer in image capture quality Fuji has delivered on time and time again but if they screw around and not get it out there, somebody else like Nikon will wow us with the D300 because there is nothing really wrong with the D200. It captures fine enough for the value.

Again, Fuji is in line with it's portrait and wedding photographers that care about shooting film like characteristics from the moment that you shoot it. No I am not talking about film is better than digital or digital is better than film scenerio.

Yes you can shoot anything raw, PP it to death or profile it and still get the same results but we don't have time to **** with image files. Fuji has recognized this. Dynamic range in the S3 was the key to the S3 by holding detail in white bridal gowns. If the noise reduction and the so called SR Pro sensoring works like they say it will then portrait photographers will have a reason to believe in the camera and upgrade.

Just because I am not too excited doesn't mean I am dissin' Fuji as I strongly believe what they do is right for me.

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It might be the same sensor exactly, it might not. If Fuji has managed to give us 10mp resolution instead of the current 8mp out of the same sensor, I'll line up for it. Then again, the new Super CCD SR Pro might just be marketing. We'll see.

Regardless, I signed the wait list at Tallyn's despite my protestations.
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