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HELP! Photoshop SNAFU
Old 04-23-2003, 03:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I've been trying to scan some black and white negatives with my Nikon Coolscan LS2000 and they all turn out absolutely horrible....terribly dark, no definition to the images, and just plain nasty. The images are unrecognizable. The scanner works fine for color negatives and all slides but not for black and white negatives. Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? I've tried playing with just about every setting I can and still get the same results. Am I missing something obvious?? (Using PS 7 w/a 2.6 GHz AMD Athlon T-bird and just under 1 GB of DDR RAM; 2-40 GB hard drives, and a partridge in a pear tree).

Your help would be most appreciated!!

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Re: HELP! Photoshop SNAFU
Old 04-23-2003, 03:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try scanning them as transparencies/slides, set the levels manually, then reverse the images in PS. If that doesn't help, don't know what to tell you . . .
 
 
Re: HELP! Photoshop SNAFU
Old 04-23-2003, 05:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Mike,

Sometimes the Nikon "Digital Ice" dust removal mechanism gets fooled, interprets the grain clumping in a b&w emulsion as surface dirt, and this can produce pretty awful results. Depends on the emulsion you're working with. Try turning the Ice off, and good luck,

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The original b&w neg was scanned on an LS-2000 for this image of Valerie / Ford Models, circa 1980. The neg was 1980, not the scan, lol.
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Re: HELP! Photoshop SNAFU
Old 04-24-2003, 07:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi Lynn,

I'll give that a shot and see how it works. Thanks a bunch!

Good day!

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I have that scanner
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There are some film and chromes that just don't scan well. YOu lose all density/range in the scan. I have not found ANY way around this. I have had others check into it as well to no avail. Your best bet (if none of the other suggestions work) is to have someone try to drum scan them.
 
 
how do you scan your B+W
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negs ...as B+W or color...scanning B+W as color can help hold on to some of the range ect....
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Do NOT scan B&W with Digital ICE
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You are exactly right, it will not work (even in COLOR mode).

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Re: HELP! Photoshop SNAFU
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You might try VueScan - software from Hamrick Software. If any software can get a decent scan, VueScan can. {sorry - sounded too good to pass on.)

Seriously, I found VueScan far superior to the HP software which came with their original PhotoScan (ScanJet?). OK, that's not proof - but everything I've read and experienced about VueScan suggests that it's the best scanner driver system available. And the demo version is free - so you have almost nothing to lose.

I have no affiliation with Hamrick Software. In fact, I no longer shoot film and hopefully my scanning days are over. But I know that I could scan slides, C40 negatives, prints AND black & white negatives.

Good luck

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Re: how do you scan your B+W
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Hi Jayson,

I scan them as B&W negs but still have a few things left to try I think. I've also had some good suggestions here about disabling digital ice as well as trying some other software. If I can't get it worked out, I'll just make prints in the darkroom and scan the prints on my flatbed. I just thought it would be easier to skip that step of having to make prints.

Good day!

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Re: I have that scanner
Old 04-25-2003, 01:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks Hackman. I have good results with color slides and negs but no joy with the black and white. Go figure. I also have trouble with Kodachrome slides (something about the dyes used???). I may have to resort to drum scanning or, as I told Jayson in another post, I'll just make prints in the darkroom and then scan them on my flatbed. I'm just trying to get my money's worth out of this scanner, ya know! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks for telling me that you also have troubles with certain films. At least I don't feel so alone anymore.

Good day!

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