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Choosing Nikon D1X or Canon 1D, HELP!!!!!
Old 04-20-2003, 06:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking to change to digital, not concerned if have to dump Canon glass currently and buy new Nikon lenses if decide to choose D1x. Several people pointed out Nikon gives ability to shoot in RAW, JPEG and TIFF files where Canon only RAW and JPEG.

Is this alone worth picking the Nikon over the Canon.......If you use either please post 1 of your best images so can kind of see the qualkity of each camera


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Re: Choosing Nikon D1X or Canon 1D, HELP!!!!!
Old 04-20-2003, 08:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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David

A couple of observations.

First, shooting in TIFF is a feature that no one I know uses. Either you shoot JPEG to give you more images on a card or you shoot RAW because size matters and you want the image straight from the camera.

Second, no image that anyone can post would look any different. No one could post a 20 or 30 MB RAW file. You can't tell the difference on a forum post between formats.

Are you comparing the D1x to the Canon 1D or 1Ds. I thought they''d stopped making the 1D... The 1Ds is something like $7K or $8K and the D1x is aorund $4K - $5K.

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Re: Choosing Nikon D1X or Canon 1D, HELP!!!!!
Old 04-20-2003, 10:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hello David,
I’ve been using the D1x for the past year and a half and have been more then pleased with the results. My Bronica now collects dust because the image quality I get is just as good. I can print 20x30 with no image loss at all and 30x40 are not that much of a challenge as well. Of course the lab may need to tweak the image a bit in using "Genuine Fractals" but that is minimal. The Raw format is useless unless maybe your printing for billboards ;o) otherwise you will never tell the difference and is a waste of card space. As Bob mentioned is his reply, all are correct.
Both cameras are great. The Canon D1 is dated just like the Nikon D1x and I‘m sure should be totally replaced here in the next few months. I believe D1 is still in production because the 1Ds, like mentioned, is around 7-8k a pretty price to pay for a 12 Meg pix camera.
Many Master photographers (some I know and some I’ve heard) are using the D1x and Fuji S2 for their weddings and portraits and no longer using their medium formats; point being is that whatever you get is going to be nice and you will be happy. Of my choice, the D1x of course, but I’ve heard and seen great things about the Fuji S2 in that the color is nicer and the images sharper, I’d need to shoot it and compare but I think I’d be pulling hairs at that point. I don’t think there is a “perfect camera”... yet.
O and one important point, if you already have several Canon lenses and flashes then your choice is easy. Unless you have tons of money to replace everything you already have, if you have Canon then use Canon. Hope this helps.

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Vincent brings up a great point that I don't see discussed much when talking about the merits of the S2 vs the D1x. There's ONE thing that really makes the difference. The S2 is built on a prosumer body -- the N80. The D1x is built on the F5 body. The F5 is a tank. It can really take the abuse and shoot thousands of images. The S2 (and my S1) have never let me down -- but I don't put them to REAL hard use and I only shoot 10 - 15 thousand images a year.

I don't know if the level of use / abuse makes a difference for you.

Bob
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Re: Choosing Nikon D1X or Canon 1D, HELP!!!!!
Old 04-20-2003, 10:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I would go with whichever feels the best in your hand (controls, dials, etc.) You didn't say which Canon film body you currently use, but if it is a 1V or 1Vhs a 1D is basically the digital version (all the controls are in the same location on the camera.) I shot for over 2 years with my EOS 1Vhs and when I picked up my 1Ds I felt right at home. I've shot with both the D1x and the 1D as well, and in my opinion the 1D is a more accurate and versatile camera (AF is 45 points vs. 5, plus awsome auto white balance.) The one feature I like best on the Canons, are the custom tone curves. I've set up 3 or 4 to match my favorite films (Astia, Provia, etc.)

On jobs, I ALWAYS shoot RAW, It takes longer to process, but the increased post shot adjustment capabilities (and piece of mind, +/- 3 exposure compensation =) ) are worth the time. I always use Captue One DSLR or Adobe's RAW plug-in for any adustments.

Also, so you know the 1D will not be discontinued any time soon. It has quite a bit quicker continuous shooting than the 1Ds (it is aimed at sports photogs, 8fps in bursts up to 21 vs. 3fps in bursts up to 10 on the 1Ds.) It can also be found below the manufacturer required (MAP) Minimum Advertised Price right now. About $3,500 if you do some price searching [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

Let me know if you have any other ?s, and keep me posted on whichever you decide.

-Jason


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Re: Choosing Nikon D1X or Canon 1D, HELP!!!!!
Old 04-21-2003, 03:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Im buying a 1D today, prob keep my 1V as spare. Any suggestions since TOTALLY new to digital as to what flash cards to get. Which do you use. I'm shooting some new girls during next 2 weeks and introducing them to Tracy Reed, shot w/Michelle in the past. Love your pics of her by the way. Brought a girl by Tracy yesterday who she liked and bringing another 3 by during this and next week. Really curious to see how this digital works out, cost wise thats why I'm changing and for convienance. Just a bit nervous learning the lingo n settings I'll need to learn while shooting digitla. Thanks again Jason

My main email is david@davidbalchunas.com

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Bob you are the voice of reason in a sea of mud! You need to look at print quality and you defintily need to use print techniques consistant with the size you are shooting for or you know nothing about the quality of the camera. My D1x consistently gives me flawless 20 inch prints when done on a pegasus or light jet printer. EPson 9600 can max out at 40 inches in a giclee format. My files are typically tiff and are in the 80-140 mb range....you wont see that on any screen..
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Re: Choosing Nikon D1X or Canon 1D, HELP!!!!!
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David,

I have been shooting with Canon cameras for the past 28 years and love them. I do mostly outdoor shooting and need a camera that is durable and will work in inclimate weather. I also like the battery life of the Canon. I typically shoot anywhere between 400 and 600 images per shoot and have never even had to go to by backup battery. If you get the Nikon and have any fast Canon glass you need to unload, drop me a line.

Joe


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I am also a Canon user with an XT and an XTi with kit lens and a Canon 28-105 1:4-5.6 USM. They are great for everyday shoots, but I would like someone else's input of use as a glamour camera. I note a lot of users with 10D and 20D, but no mention of XT models.
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