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New 30D, time for Lens advice
Old 07-02-2006, 12:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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After posting on this and a few other forums, I was convinced to spend the extra on the 30D. Glad I did, but now I need to get some advice on a lens.
What would be a good all around 1st lens for my investment ? Fixed at XXmm, zoom from XX to XX, f2.8, F5.6, ...?
There are many options and price ranges out there and after spending the extra on the 30D, I need to be able to stay in a reasonable budget.
Any help is appreciated.
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Re: New 30D, time for Lens advice
Old 07-02-2006, 12:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Bob:

Interesting to bump into you on this Forum. I live in Ahwatukee so we are neighbors of a sort.

As to your lens question it depends on what you are going to use the lenses for and how much you want to spend.

You can get used lenses at good prices and in great shape from KEH. In my opinion their grading system is the best in the industry and errs in favor of the customer. If KEH says a lens is a 9 it is probably a 9.5. I have never been dissapointed by those guys.

You can get a Canon 28-70 F2.8 L for approx $650.00. You can also pick up a Canon 80-200 F2.8L for approx $850.00

If these are out of your price range I use the Canon 28-105 F3.5 - 4.5 and it produces great photos. You can get it used for approx $180.00 or so. I also use the Canon 70-300 F4.5 - 5.6 and have had great success with it. You can find it for approx $180.00 or so used.

Another lens to look at but it is getting very hard to find is the Canon 100-200 F3.5 - 4.5. This is a consumer lens but it will hang right in there with the Pro lenses. Canon has stopped making it but you can find it on EBay or KEH for approx $225.00.

If you go the EBay route I suggest picking a price ceiling and staying wth it. There are some dealers who troll EBay looking to screw normal guys like us and I have traded a few nasty emails with them over their practices.

I hope this helps. Have a great day.
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Re: New 30D, time for Lens advice
Old 07-04-2006, 12:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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So you spring the extra bucks for a big-time camera (cool), but (just like Clint) you have to ask yourself one Question; Do you want to put cheap, low quality glass in front of it? (well do ya punk? oops sorry, but, let's just assume you answered "NO")

OK, here it is, if you want the BEST possible shots, ONLY buy Canon Lenses and ONLY buy their "L" Glass. And whenever possible, stick to Lenses that have f2.8 or lower..

It really is that simple, don't waste your time asking people on Photo Forums if they are happy with "Cheap Glass" as you will find hundreds of them. It would be like asking a Honda owner if he feels he needs a Beemer..

OK, so let's review, for your everyday (walk around) Lens, I would go with the Canon 24-70L 2.8. The Canon 24-105L might be "ok" but I have never used it...

Then start saving for a Canon 70-200L 2.8 IS and a Canon 1.4x extender..
With those two Lenses and the Extender, you will be covered from 24-280mm

And those two lenses have lasted me through three or four Canon Bodies, they are made very well and besides holding their value, they will last you for years, making the cost-of-ownership lower than going through a bunch of "discount" lenses...

have a safe and sane 4th.
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Re: New 30D, time for Lens advice
Old 07-04-2006, 09:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Here's a link to an article over at the luminous-landscape that discusses 18 different Canon lenses that you may find informative. As to what you should buy? It depends entirely on what you're going to use it for.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...n_lenses.shtml

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Re: New 30D, time for Lens advice
Old 07-04-2006, 06:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Not every lens has to be L series. There are a number of non-L lenses that are well worth having. Given that you are on this site, I'm going to assume you'll be shooting some portrait-style work. I'd strongly recommend looking at the 100mm f2.8 Macro lens - razor sharp focus (very fast focus, too) with nicely out-of-focus backgrounds. It's not an expensive lens, either.

A couple of other lenses worth considering in the non-L world are the 85mm f1.8 and 50mm f1.4.
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Re: New 30D, time for Lens advice
Old 07-05-2006, 08:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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As it's been said, the lens you need depends upon what you are pointing the camera at...

I recently purchased a new Canon 30d and a Canon 24-70 f.28 L to go with it as my general purpose lens, which suits my needs to shoot mostly faces (portraits, events, etc.).

I also wanted a fairly strong telephoto lens, but more for fun than work. Spending another two grand for my first choice lens (Canon 70-200 F2.8 IS w/2.0x tele-converter) was just not going to happen. In the end I spent $200 on a Sigma 70-300mm F4-5.6 after trying a number of similar lens from Canon, Tamron, Sigma, Quantaray, etc., I am very happy with this lens in terms of value. Value being the key word, for my hobby purposes, it's a nice lens with a nice case and a decent hood.

Moral of the story, the lens you need is very subjective. First figure out what you want it to be capable of, then determine your price range, then take your camera body to a few photo equipment stores and shoot some comparisons (go home, look at the images on a large screen, note what you like or dislike about each), then when you finally decide what you want, go price shopping online (just remember, bottom line price isn't everything so make sure your comfortable with the online merchants terms before you buy, all in all I've been very pleased with B&H photo for new equipment and KEH.com for used).

Best of luck, I love my 30d, I hope you have the same positive experiences.

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Re: New 30D, time for Lens advice
Old 07-05-2006, 09:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I too have a 30D. As mentioned in the above notes...save your money and by an Canon L series f2.8..you won't go wrong. Digital camera technology is constantly improving and coming down in price. The money you invest in a good lens will remain more consistent.
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