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Old 06-24-2006, 06:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am currently using the black seamless paper, but have heard of some sort of black fabric that does not reflect...velour maybe...not sure....anyone have a name or suggestions as to where this could be found.
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Old 06-24-2006, 07:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I use this velvet type stuff. It is specifically made for photography and works a treat. I have no idea where to get it in the U.S. though. For those in Australia, Dragon Image is where I got mine. They have stores in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. It could be made in China, most of their stuff is. The get it in massive rolls and cut off the length you want.
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Just about any black cloth should work.

I've got black cloth that is some sort of cotton/polyester blend and it works just fine.
I got it at a fabric store. I'd suggest you go visit a fabric store near you and look at what they have. If you want the least reflective black then get the dullest and deepest black you can find.

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Old 06-24-2006, 07:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Black cotton-based velvet is the deepest black fabric you can find. Unfortunately it doesn't come mutch wider than around a meter, so you need to find a seamstress to sew it for you. The good news is that it is so dark that the seams don't show up. For a significant fraction of the cost (1/3) you can find synthetic black felt up to ~72 inches wide. You will most likely want to sew that too.

The good thing about both of the above is that you can throw them in the washing machine.

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Use black cloth, underexpose it, and move your subject as far toward the camera away from it as you can without showng the edges in your final crop (even if you do show the edges you can easily take them out later in PS. Then meter the background for 1-2 stops less exposure than your subject reading. Using the black velour stuff works but it's a lot more expensive.

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Old 06-24-2006, 10:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info....I will look into it....
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I use this velvet type stuff. It is specifically made for photography and works a treat. I have no idea where to get it in the U.S. though. For those in Australia, Dragon Image is where I got mine. They have stores in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. It could be made in China, most of their stuff is. They get it in massive rolls and cut off the length you want.
Dragon Image have two kinds of black background (other than paper). One is the synthetic velour - it's really black, but it's a pain to keep clean because it's a lint magnet. The other stuff is a non-woven material that they say is polyester; it has a fine dimple pattern and a non-reflective coating - it sells for A$17 / metre, which isn't much more than 2.7m wide paper. The pattern doesn't show unless you are way too close (maybe four inches!). Much easier to keep clean.

Both materials come 3 metres wide (~10 feet). Both are a lot thicker and let less light through than muslin. They drape nicely into a curve if you want the cyclorama effect. I have 6 metres of each, but I doubt I'll use the velour again - too much of a pain.

The only thing I can't help you with is where to source them.
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I read a suggestion that you can find much wider fabric if you don't go to a regular fabric store; find a place that supplies fabric to be used for sheets and quilt covers - they will have much wider bolts of fabric.
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Savage, have a range of background paper they call Velvetine.
This has a flock type non-reflective surface.
Unfortunately they only make it in half-width rolls (52"), but its good for head-shots and up to 3/4 length.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/1...e_Savage_.html

I just checked, and Colorama also do a range they call "Velour" - still half-width, but 1.46m wide (I estimate that to be 57") so sligtly wider.

This one shot with the Savage Velvetine paper.
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I have had some good success using black polar fleece. It's a bit of a lint magnet but can be washed easily.
Here are some where I used this background:
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