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White Balancing Frustrations....
Old 04-14-2003, 08:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, so I took the plunge and picked up the 10D this weekend. Couldn't believe it, of all the places to find it, our local Best Buy had it. At any rate, so I've been shooting quite a bit this weekend and have it quite frustrating trying to get good color when I'm using my monolights. I have two B800 AlienBees which I know work just fine (results were great from shooting film), at any rate, using the 10D I tend to get a redish/yellowish cast to most of the shots...sometimes even a grayish cast. So, what's the best way to white balance for studio lighting? I tried most of the "preset" balancing options to no avail, which is fine, I prefer to do most things the manual way anyhow. I'm not sure where to go from here...first digital camera so I apologize if this is a really ignorant question that can easily be answered.

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Sounds like the camera is.....
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......defaulting to a slow shutter, and capturing the model lamps. Try using manual settings, and see what happens, with a shutter speed of at least 1/125 sec.
 
 
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Well I did shoot all manual (preferred way). Was shooting at 1/125 and bouncing between f5.6 and f8. The only thing that was "automatic" was the White Balance. I metered at ISO 100, 1/125 and f5.6. I then applied the black scarf technique that Rolando uses.

So I take it from your response you don't think it's a white balance issue? New camera and new light meter so I'm still becoming "intimate" with them both. Perhaps I just simple underexposed it, I've just never seen color cast from underexposure. The grayish color, yes I could see that, but not the other. However, I've never worked with digital either so maybe this is common.

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Re: White Balancing Frustrations....
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Brent,
Did you use the daylight preset? The AlienBees should be set for daylight color temp. You might try a custom white balance using a gray card set the colors to something like 245 245 245. If you use 255 that is pure white, it's better to set it a little on the low side.
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However, did you have the same result, without the black scarf diffusion? Also, did you shoot any images with flash selected for white balance, or only auto?

Digital does react quite differently than film under certain mixed light conditions, which I am still sorting out myself! What would have yielded perfect balance on film, gave me overall strong blue cast on digital. There are definitly new rules with digital, that did not apply to film. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
 
 
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Shoot a gray card and instruct the camera to use that frame as a custom white balance reference.

Or you can use a Wallace ExpoDisc

I've found the ExpoDisc to work extremely well for setting a custom white balance in the studio.




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Thanks to all that responded...I ordered some Warm Cards. Guess I'll just have to continue to experiment [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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daylight on my D1X.....
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...works just fine with my Bee's .

 
 
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Took the advice of some of the suggestions here and got it worked out. It was a white balance issue. None of the preset white balances worked for my setup, did the custom white balance and pictures came out great. I'm now happy with my camera again [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks again for all your suggestions and input, much appreciated.

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DISREGARD!!!!! didn't read the other post first...read on if you like though [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I know this is a cardinal rule that I am telling you to break, but it will get rid of the orange.

Sounds as if you have not read the manual on how to set the WB.

Set the 10D to the AWB setting then shoot a white peice of paper. Then, open the menu, go to CUSTOM WB, and select the image of the White sheet. Then press the AF-WB button on tope of the body, and twrill down to the square with the triangles on both sides. The camera then uses that image as a reference for all WB from there after. YOu will get better results if you use a warm card.

OR

if you know the color out put of your lights simply go to the COLOR Temp setting and match your color temp. if you know that the color of your lights is 5600k, set the color to 5600 and select the AF-WB option on the top of the body to the "K" setting.

here are two image straight from the camera left is at 4800k and right is at 5600k
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