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Old 04-03-2006, 10:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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OK, I have my first allien bee light a B800 now I want to buy a background stand and I am thinking seamless paper.

question 1, are the 150 dollars backgrounds stands any good not real heavy duty use.

question 2, if you could buy 3 colors of background what would they be.

question 3, where to buy.......

I was thinking white, grey, and a dark red

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Old 04-03-2006, 12:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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question 1, are the 150 dollars backgrounds stands any good not real heavy duty use.
They'll work just fine. Paper stands are pretty static, meaning they are subject to much stress, so lighte weight stands work jus tfine.

question 2, if you could buy 3 colors of background what would they be.
White, black and black

question 3, where to buy.......
Any camera store will have them, as will any reputable on line camers atore. They are everywhere.
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Are the cheap $150 stands good? YES!
Is there a cheaper alternative? YES! I use two light stands with a 9 foot piece of 3/4" galvanized pipe between them. Run the pipe through the seamless, then add a couple of 90 degree elbows and attach to the top of your light stands. It's a cheaper solution and the best part is you'll have two light stands which can be used for other purposes when you're not shooting against the seamless.
Colors? I'll have to agree that white & black are the most useful. Only other color I use a lot is "Sky Blue." I use the Sky Blue when I shoot a model in my studio and use Photoshop to knock out the background and make her look like she's outside.
HELPFUL TIP:: Use 2" wide packing tape to tape all the edges of your seamless paper before you use it. This trick will help keep the paper from tearing as you use it. Some of my seamless is over 20 years old and still in good shape.
TRICK: Since seamless paper is two sided, extend it's usefulness by painting the backside. In the example below, I spray painted light clouds on my blue seamless.
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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great tips thanks,

I found 1 stand for 99 dollars and it come with a roll of white seamless with the stands able to be used as light stands.

I will order a roll of black with it any other color sugestions, I really like the blue with the clouds idea, but I took some shots on red seamless at one of workshops
I also liked.
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Old 04-03-2006, 03:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Save the stands for your lights. Take 2 heavy duty hooks and screw them into joists in the ceiling. Take parachute cord, thread it through an appropriate length of electrical conduit or pipe, and tie a loop on either end. With a stick with a piece of bent wire or a bent nail in the end of it, you can reach up and unhook the the loop and bring it down to change your background. Or, even better, put up 3 sets of hooks, spaced far enough apart ot allow the hanging rolls of seamless to turn, and don't worry about changing the rolls.
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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How about white seamless with gels to modify the color.
I dont think I would go with gray if you are getting white anyway. You can make it go gray with your lighting set up.
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Old 04-04-2006, 09:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I ordered the savage background stand with the free white seamless and a roll of black and red.

now I will start working on a background light any ideas........

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I use the background set made by JTL. Excellent units. I also bought the 2 roll adapter thingie to have two rolls up.

Black will take coloured gels better than white.

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Old 04-06-2006, 11:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Some of my seamless is over 20 years old and still in good shape.
All I can say is you must not let models walk on your seamless!

High heels + seamless = lotsa holes, scuff marks, etc...

20 years? Unbelievable...

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Old 04-06-2006, 11:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
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All I can say is you must not let models walk on your seamless!

High heels + seamless = lotsa holes, scuff marks, etc...

20 years? Unbelievable...
I read a while back about using dricore squares underneath the seamless to help avoid the holy issue. Up until about a week ago, I could not find them, then I ran across them! WOW, I am so pleased with the ease that they go together and their portability. They make for a great base, plus, so far, no holes. The only downside that I found is that the top side of the dricore is very slick and, if you don't tack down the seamless on top of it somehow (I actually use a few clamps and secure it to the front edge of the dricore), things seem to slip around a bit. That is my 2 1/2 cents.
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