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D-50 with Nikkor any opinions?
Old 03-08-2006, 08:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all,

Im almost just about close to being reay to switching from my trusty lil p&s Fuji s3100, to a real camera. Im looking online and finding a few things in my budget. and here's one im leaning towards:

Nikon D-50 with Nikkor 28-80 lens, and standard accessories. for 599.00

Is this a good deal? Is it a good camera? Is it a good lens?

Im lost here. Like a monkey with a set of car keys, I have no idea what world im jumping in to. Any help or guidance would be appreciated.

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Old 03-08-2006, 10:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Michael,

The D50 is a stripped down version of the D70. Two years from now the difference in price will be forgotten and you will have a fantastic DSLR and 1,000's of captures you will like.

My advice, get the $300 Nikon 28-200mm G...compact, and very sharpe. You will be able to get tight head shots easily without being in your model's face.

Here is Orchid at almost 200mm:



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Old 03-08-2006, 12:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you're budget minded, I'd suggest looking for a used D100 or D70 from someone upgrading to the D200. Reason being is the D50 just doesn't cut it if you want to move up into shooting RAW. I shot with the D70 for about a year and moved up to the D200. I sold my D70 for <$500 in perfect condition. I know you can find nice D100s around the same price. I still see great photographers making outstanding photographs with that body.

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Old 03-08-2006, 12:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I didn't want to wait for a D200 (still 45 days at my local shop) and I got the same "kit" you mentioned. I would have had to wait for the body alone but they had the kits in stock. My plan was to use all of the MF primes that I've built up since the '80s.

My old lenses are tack sharp but I tried out the 28 - 80 in a real shoot and it actually ended up being used by a client for a 20 x 30 poster and looks great. Genuine Fractals was used for up rez. I do use the D50 regularly for calendar work now. I only use manual exposure mode so I cannot comment on most features.

The camera is kind of light compared to what I am used to (F3HP-MD4-Firing Rate Converter) so I'm not sold on taking it where I might beat on it.

I'm quite happy with D50, Nikon Capture, and Genuine Fractals.

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Old 03-08-2006, 12:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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... Reason being is the D50 just doesn't cut it if you want to move up into shooting RAW...

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What are the problems with D50 RAW? I only shoot RAW and haven't had any problems. I will say, though, that I have nothing to compare it to. I've been digital for less than a month but I'm using the D50 daily for everything from business portraits on location, to sports, to studio glamour, you name it.

Or maybe I'd be all the better for it if I don't know. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Old 03-08-2006, 04:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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What are the problems with D50 RAW? I only shoot RAW and haven't had any problems. I will say, though, that I have nothing to compare it to. I've been digital for less than a month but I'm using the D50 daily for everything from business portraits on location, to sports, to studio glamour, you name it.

Or maybe I'd be all the better for it if I don't know. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Thanks!

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My mistake. I thought they took that away. After checking the DPReview comparison between the D50/70, it appears the only points are a slightly softer anti-aliasing filter (offset by less noise at higher ISO) and the lack of a second command dial.

Personally for the glass I shoot, the body is just too small. Ever mount a 28-70mm f/2.8D AFS on the D50? It lacks balance which is a little better on the D70 and far improved on the D200 and D2 family.

YMMV.
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Personally for the glass I shoot, the body is just too small. Ever mount a 28-70mm f/2.8D AFS on the D50? It lacks balance which is a little better on the D70 and far improved on the D200 and D2 family.

YMMV.

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Heck yeah it's small!!! I stuck a 135/2.0 on it (or did I put the D50 on the 135? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ) and had a good laugh. It's tough to hold because of the balance that you mention. I shoot on a tripod so I guess I'll be OK until my D200 is in.

Are you using the MB-D200 grip???

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Heck yeah it's small!!! I stuck a 135/2.0 on it (or did I put the D50 on the 135? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ) and had a good laugh. It's tough to hold because of the balance that you mention. I shoot on a tripod so I guess I'll be OK until my D200 is in.

Are you using the MB-D200 grip???

-- Dave



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I have the grip and love it. Along with a RRS L-Bracket I find it great to handhold even with the 70-200mm VR. The only bad thing about the grip is accidental bumps on the portrait release. The on-off switch helps [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 03-08-2006, 11:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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As well as being a photographer, I work part time in a Camera Store and am familiar with these cameras. The D50 was aimed for the amateur market and is designed to give an excellent colour correct image etc. right out of the box without fiddling around.

There are several differences between the D50-D70/s and the main ones are:
1. D 70 has two command dials - very useful if you are shooting manual.
2. D 70 has faster frame rate - 3 fps vs 2.5 for the D50
3. D 70 has the 1005 pixel RGB colour meter ( this is the same as all of Nikon's pro cameras - the D50 doesn't have this meter.
4. D 70 has a top shutter speed of 1/8000 - D50's is 1/4000.

I would suggest that you go to www.dpreview.com and put both of these cameras on the same page and you can compare their stats etc.

Normally the D50 in kit form would come with the 18-55 lens not the 28-80. The 28-80 is a lens that is designed for film whereas the 18-55 is designed for the digital bodies. I would strongly suggest that you look at the Nikon 18-70 Af-S Dx lens. I don't know what they cost in the US but optically and functionally this is an excellent lens that has been well reported on.

If you are looking at a used Nikon I would suggest the D70/D70s over the D100. The D100's technology is 3 - 4 years older that the D70/s and to my eye the D70/s takes a slightly better picture.

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