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Old 03-07-2006, 06:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am considering switching from the Nikon D2X to the Canon Mark IIs. I have someone interested in buying my D2X as well (along with a load of great lenses) and I was hoping to get anyone's on how the Mark IIs has worked for their needs compared to the D2X. The D2X has been a great machine but I do like the full frame effect and am looking for deep rich skins tones. I have heard that the Canon offers more of the rich tones and heavier contrast fashion work requires. Has anyone found the Mark IIs to be a better fit or has everyone found that the D2X was just as good and even had more resolving power?


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Old 03-07-2006, 06:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A friend of mine just bought a Mark 2, he thinks it's the greatest thing he's ever touched. Of course, he just got it, so he's naturally going to think that.

Why don't you rent a Mark 2 and a lens for your next shoot (or for a weekend), then you'll know if it fits? If you like it well enough to buy, the shop you rent from should credit the rental fee toward your purchase...Just a thought...

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Old 03-07-2006, 07:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was working on renting a Canon soon but a friend just called me today with an offer to buy my Nikon. I'm a bit pressed for time now as I may be able to sell my whole Nikon tomorrow in one big swoop.

I spoke to the guys from Canon at PMA and they also said Mark IIs rentals are hard to come by. My local store doesn't offer rentals of either Nikon or Canon so I'm a bit out of luck. I will be shooting a wedding this weekend with a guy who has a Mark IIs so I'll get to check it out then.


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Old 03-07-2006, 11:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yep I've known folks who have made that switch and been happy (although most of this was done prior to the release of the D2X). I also know folks who made that switch and then went back to Nikon. I find much of these comments funny.... A full frame sensor has some great benefits. So does a cropped sensor, it depends what you want from it. Almost any tech product is about compromise, so their is no one does everything perfect product. Do you want less noise at high ISOs? A full frame sensor is the way to go. Do you want a cleaner image at low ISOs? Then it seems Nikon has the advantage. Crop factor/magnification? Well if you shoot wide, full frame is great. If you shoot telephoto, you're gettign free distance with the crop. You can always buy pro wide angle lenses for a LOT less than you can buy pro telephoto lenses. See where I'm going? Neither is better on it's own, it's only better if it suits your work better. As far as richer skin tones go, you might want to read up on that a bit, but that's just my take. Personally, if you can't make great images that you're happy with with a D2X I don't think switching to Canon is going to help. Perhaps there are other things that need to be addressed first. If however you are making stunning photos with the D2X but are interested in certain subtle differences in color or the increased resolution, then the Canon might be right up your alley.

Hard question for anyone but you to answer...

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EDIT: Are you shooting RAW? Have you tried changing your tone compensation setting or creating a custom curve?
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Old 03-07-2006, 11:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I can't comment on the colour/tone issue but anything I've been told or have read rates the D2x as having the highest resolution of the two cameras.

I know some pro's who use the D2x, and they regularly blow up prints to the 30" + size and still find the image to be extremely sharp. I've found as a general rule that the Nikon digitals tend to produce a fairly neutral image which allows you much more lattitude at the processing stage.

It's my view that there is " no perfect camera out there ". I think you can give two photographers the exact same gear and one of them will produce better results than the other. As I've said before in other posts, photography is not an equipment game.
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Hi Brad. I have a Canon 1D Mark 11 an dI love it. Very dependable, great Lenses, especially the L series. Even thought it is only 8.2 Megapixel, I have seen prints to 30x40 of excellent quality. I would love the 1DS how ever, I really can't see the extra expense since my needs don't require a 16 Megapixel camera. You might consider renting one for a vew days to make sure. However I am sure you will be happy.

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Old 03-08-2006, 04:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Maybe it's my frugal side, ok I'm cheap, but isn't the (discontinued) Kodak DCS Pro/n full frame and use Nikon glass? It might be kinda hard to find, but might be worth the effort.
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm pondering the idea of selling my 5D with grip, for 3K.. and buying the 1DsMk2 now.. I'm just liking my 1DMk2 bodies more now,...and I'm getting "spoiled" again.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I too heard the comments of "free distance" with a smaller sensor when I first looked at the Nikon set up. Even the sales person at my local store thought this was true. After some thought, I realized that the camera does not magnify but only crop. The higher resolving power of the D2X is needed as the same size image, shot with the same length lens, requires the Nikon user to back away from the subject. When the object is printed, the object must be further enlarged to fit on the same piece of paper. Kind of complex but best reviewed here:
http://www.naturfotograf.com/D2X_rev06.html

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Old 03-10-2006, 08:02 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I may buy the 5D and wait for the next version of the Mark II to come out in the next six months. The Canon guys at PMA told me it may be very soon...
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