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Canon users: Am I really this stupid? Confessions of a Nikon user
Old 03-01-2006, 12:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay, here's the story. My friend was looking to purchase a digital camera. I told him that he should consider getting an slr, and learn how to take photos. I assured him that I could show him enough that he would get much nicer pics on his next family trip to Disney World.

So, he bought a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT with an EF-S 18-55 kit lens. A nice $869 starter camera.

So I show him how to shoot in program mode, so he can always feel safe that he'll get nicee snaps...but I also wanted to show him some uses of the manual functions and how to "learn" what the camera is doing.

THIS IS THE STUPID PART
For the life of me, I can't figure out how to change the f stop on this camera. The wheel behind the shutter release changes the shutter speed, but how on earth do you change the f stop? Now, I've used a 20D, 5D and othe Canon film cams and never had this inability to figure them out.

Now, looking at this kit lens, I'm not even sure the lens has more than one stop. There is no manual adjustment for the f stop on the lens itself, nor is there any info on the lens characteristics beside 18-55mm. In the viewfinder it shows 5.6 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Re: Canon users: Am I really this stupid? Confessions of a Nikon user
Old 03-01-2006, 12:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The wheel controls all!
Push the button that says "Av" (beside the status screen on the back panel) and then spin the wheel. This works in manual mode, and some of the prefabbed modes
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Re: Canon users: Am I really this stupid? Confessions of a Nikon user
Old 03-01-2006, 12:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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did the kit not come with a manual? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: Canon users: Am I really this stupid? Confessions of a Nikon user
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more stupidity
You sir, are a lifesaver. Whilst I am a fool.

I took some pictures, and the camera created several folders; 109canon, 108canon, etc.

When I use my D100 it puts every picture into one folder. Does the camera always do this(multiple folder thing)? I guess it's not a big deal, but it just seems odd to me that it would do that.

I suppose I am going to have to do the one thing I never wanted to do....open his instruction manual and actually read about the specifics of the camera.

damn.
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Re: Canon users: Am I really this stupid? Confessions of a Nikon user
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yes, but my stupitidy is only trumped by my laziness. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: Canon users: Am I really this stupid? Confessions of a Nikon user
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The every-hundred-shots-go-into-a-new-folder thing is not user selectable. It's one of the things about the canon that I absolutely hate. It's pointless and not the least bit helpful. I usually get around it by using "search" to find all the files on the CF card and copy them all to the computer. Shouldn't have to do it that way, but that's the way it is.
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Re: Canon users: Am I really this stupid? Confessions of a Nikon user
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RTFM

Sorry, couldn't resist [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Re: Canon users: Am I really this stupid? Confessions of a Nikon user
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If it were every 100 shots every time, that wouldn't be so bad. In my (limited) experiences with 10 and 20D's, the new folder has been at seemingly random counts, even on the same card.
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Re: Canon users: Am I really this stupid? Confessions of a Nikon user
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Actually it is based on file number. So shots IMG_0001 - IMG_0100 go into folder 100 then shots IMG_0101 through IMG_0200 go into folder 101. So if you took 25 pictures cleared the card then took 100 you would get 75 in the first folder and 25 in the second.

I agree it is stupid and pointless but consistent.
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I've had Canon cameras going back to the 70's and the Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT is the hardest one I've ever seen to use. I think this is because it is designed for total beginners, so it tries to automate everything and that makes it harder to use for anything but automatic. You have to use the manual on this camera. Which is amazing, because you can take the 20D and without even cracking the book know how to do most of what you need to do (unless you get fooled by having two On positions and only us the first).

On the matter of folders, this seems to be a consistent pattern with Canon dSLRs. I believe the 5D and the higher end gives you more control of folders. I suspect that the techies that came up with this idea has some real world reason for doing it, but they never shared it with me.

I use Downloader Pro to move the photos off the card to the hard drive. It treats the card as a single unit, so you never even see the folders. It has so many fantastic features to automate your CF downloads that you might want to check it out ( http://breezesys.com/Downloader/index.htm ).

I set it up in a fully automated mode, so as soon as the card is put in the CF card reader it starts copying the photos off and into an appropriate folder that it automatically creates per my instructions.



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