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Old 03-29-2003, 03:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I am debating upon which filters to get for shooting models. I'm leaning toward the 81A or 81B (maybe both), a Zeiss softar 1 or 2, and a circular polarizer. I need both 77mm and 82mm. I'm also leaning toward B+W filters; quite pricey but great glass. I'm also looking at Hoya but don't know if they are very good or not. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Whoa! What are you buying all that glass for? You're talking $100's in B&W for those filter sizes. If you have a specific plan where those filters support your shooting -- great. However, there are alternative ways to soften and diffuse -- including Rolando's famous "black scarf."

I do have a B&W filter on my Mamiya leaf shutter lens for my Mamiya 6. They are very nice. What kind of camera / lens are you putting these on?

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Hi Bob,

I'm shooting F100s with both a 24-70mm/f2.8 and an 80-200mm/f2.8, a 100mm/f2.8, a 35-70mm/f4-5.6, and I also have a 70-300mm/f4-5.6 that sees little use because it's a cheap Tamron lens. The rest are either Nikkor or Sigma EX professional glass. I like the warmth of the 81B and the circular polarizer comes in very handy when I shoot the yacht races for the Maine Yacht Racing Magazine each year.

In any event, what can I do to get the same effect as the 81B? I know about other softening methods like Rolando's black scarf trick and so I'll probably opt for that. I do know that the Zeiss Softar is a great filter (albeit VERY expensive...over $200) and it would be nice for wedding shots but it sounds like the black scarf trick may work just fine.

I'm going to Rolando's workshop in Troy, NY in May and I'm sure he'll cover some methods.

Thanks for your thoughts, Bob!!

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Part of the answer for the warming filter is "how much are you warming?" I have a small reflector that comes with an extra cover -- the cover has a deep gold side that really warms up a model on a location shoot. But, just the model. Which I think is what you want. For the studio you can gel the strobe pretty successfully. At Rolando's workshop you'll probably get a book of gel samples. They're just the right size to pull out of the book and tape across an on-camera-sized flash unit. Using a small fill-flash with a warm gel will work. And you can vary the warmth of the gel used on the fill flash depending on the model and the light. Better than one expensive filter where you'd be stuck with the one effect.

Enjoy the workshop.... hmmm, I assisted on the Philly workshop -- maybe I could get a deal to work this one too!

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Hi Bob,

Great idea! I'd thought about geling my studio strobes when I work in the studio but hadn't really considered doing it on my flash. I'd basically be doing the same thing only on a smaller scale. However, when I do foliage shots and get out in nature, I do find that I need to filter the lens in order to color correct for the coolness of the foliage. I can deal with that later though because right now I'm just concerned about warming up the skin tones on a model and I think you've steered me in the right direction. I'll see about getting gels for my flash.

Thanks for your help.

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B+W is one of the best brands, and they will produce obviously better results than more commonly found brands.

However, you need only the 82mm, with an adapter ring for the 77mm lens thread, and an apapter ring for the 77mm lens hood, from the 82mm filter. (At least, that will work for most situations, including RB's.)

Hoya filters would be preferred over Tiffen, as Hoya's are not laminated. Brands other than those might be questionable in quality and effect.
 
 
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