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Old 12-30-2005, 03:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK, I process my images and when I click on print with preview the window pops up with a small preview on the top left.

Now for some unknown reason the colours in the preview window do not match the image I am looking at on screen, they seem less saturated and skintones look paler.

When I print them they do come out as shown in the preview window. So how do I get my little preview pictures to match the main image on the screen because i've tred allsorts and it just doesnt want to happen!!

Any help appreciated.

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Old 12-30-2005, 04:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Simon I have wondered about the same thing, I use the preview screen for composition only.
If somone has the knowledge of why this happen and how to have a perfect preview I would be very pleased. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: PS & Printing Prob
Old 12-30-2005, 04:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you have the photos in SRGB mode or Adobe RGB? If in Adobe RGB then you will need to convert the photo to SRGB before printing. If this is not the case, you may need to calibrate your system to your printer.
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The preview window is simply to show composition of the image on the selected paper, it is not ment for color correction. I think that it was luck that the preview image matched your print. Make sure your monitor is calibrated.
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I'm not sure if this is your problem or not but it sounds like the views, document view and print preview, are using a different color management model.

I can tell you how I print color reliably (the views match); maybe some bit of it will help you figure it out. This is with PS-CS2 and an Epson P2200 with Media Street inks.

1) All my files are converted from the camera color profile (D1X Daylight) to Adobe RGB (1998). You don't have to use Adobe RGB, that's just what I use.

2) When I do 'File>Print with Preview...', I click 'More Options' and change 'Output' to 'Color Management'.

3) I make sure 'Document' is selected which confirms, (Profile: Adobe RGB (1998))

4) Under 'Options' I set 'Color Handling:' to 'Let Photoshop Determine Colors' and 'Printer Profile' to the custom printer/paper profile for my choice of paper, usually Ilford Smooth Pearl (IGSPP9_E2200PSPP_0604v2.icc)

Works like a charm with color, sucks out loud for B&W.

One thing, the Epson preview window that pops up after I click 'Print' is always saturated with magenta because it's not coordinated with the PS color management.

This isn't big news or anything special, just thought it worth mentioning, maybe it'll help you run down your problem.

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Old 12-30-2005, 05:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Just change PS over to sRGB and converted profile of image aswell. Certainly has printed out much better. I do keep trying to calibrate my monitor but dont have hardware to do it properly so relying on my eyes (not so good....lol) and Apples ColourSync.
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I'm not sure if this is your problem or not but it sounds like the views, document view and print preview, are using a different color management model.

I can tell you how I print color reliably (the views match); maybe some bit of it will help you figure it out. This is with PS-CS2 and an Epson P2200 with Media Street inks.

1) All my files are converted from the camera color profile (D1X Daylight) to Adobe RGB (1998). You don't have to use Adobe RGB, that's just what I use.

2) When I do 'File>Print with Preview...', I click 'More Options' and change 'Output' to 'Color Management'.

3) I make sure 'Document' is selected which confirms, (Profile: Adobe RGB (1998))

4) Under 'Options' I set 'Color Handling:' to 'Let Photoshop Determine Colors' and 'Printer Profile' to the custom printer/paper profile for my choice of paper, usually Ilford Smooth Pearl (IGSPP9_E2200PSPP_0604v2.icc)

Works like a charm with color, sucks out loud for B&W.

One thing, the Epson preview window that pops up after I click 'Print' is always saturated with magenta because it's not coordinated with the PS color management.

This isn't big news or anything special, just thought it worth mentioning, maybe it'll help you run down your problem.

Chip

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Sounds similar but at number 4, I dont have any further options in PS. When it continues onto the printing window (epson managed I guess) I get three further options under colour management :

1. Colour Controls - Lets me alter everything, brightness, contrast, saturation, gamma etc...
2. ColourSync with no options
3. No colour Adjustment.

Mines on option 3 atm as I figured it was being controlled elsewhere and when I tried option 1, it sucked!
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Oh yeah, shoulda mentioned that...
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Yep, in the Epson driver options I have 'Color Management' set to 'ICM' and under 'ICC Profile' I select 'No Color Adjustment'

I think the option I mentioned in step 4 is new to Photoshop CS2. I think they did that to steer people away from double-profiling by making putting the paper profile right there in the main preview.

Thanks for mentioning that.

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Old 12-30-2005, 08:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I had the same problem setting up my Epson 2200 and Photoshop Elements. After several hours on the phone with a tech we discovered that you couldn't have color management in two places. You had to choose one or the other. Chip and Sizer hit it on the head. Same way we solved my problem.
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