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Old 12-09-2005, 01:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm in the process of getting back into photography, this time doing it digitally, but I'm in the usual quandary of "which is better", specifically lenses. I most likely will be shooting Nikon Dsomething &/or Fuji S2/3's, but what about lenses? Granted, Nikkor (or camera mfgr. glass period) rules, but, are there acceptable alternatives - specifically Tokina or Sigma? I've read decent stuff in opinion forums on these brands, but those opinions were by "Joe User" and not a pro. Thoughts / feelings / opinions / examples would be greatly appreciated! I've been reading the posts here for a few weeks and have been impressed by this community. I hope to have something to contribute soon!
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I certainly don't qualify as a pro, but with over 10,000 images on my 10D using a Tokina 28-70mm f 2.8, I can't complain. I've got a Sigma 70-200mm f 2.8 that I bought when I was still shooting film. I have never had any problems with it, but don't use it very often with the smaller format of the 10d. The decision is still pretty much a personal one.
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Haven't shot Nikon in years, but if you want the best possibly shots, go with Nikon Glass.

The problem with a question like this, is that you will undoubtly find people who say they are happy with the off-brand Lenses. You want to believe them or do you want the best possible Glass?

It's hard to ask someone if they think you will be happy with sub-par equipmeent, maybe you will and maybe you won't...



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Old 12-09-2005, 06:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've used the Tokina 28-70 2.8 for film and have had great results when I hit the "sweet spot". Only problem is.....I never pay attention to what I'm shooting at but I think it's around 5.6 or 8.
I hope to switch to digital after Christmas [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], then it will be much easier to tell.

Sorry,

"Joe User" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I picked mine up used from KEH. Real good price.
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You may get all sorts of answers. I use the Sigma 70-200 2.8 for a lot of my glamour work and it appears to be the full equal of the Canon L lens and independent reviews seem to confirm that. But suppose the OEM lens are better than the Sigmas or Tokina, etc. The question is how much better and is the "how much better" worth the price difference. I generally see only 5% or less difference between the best end results between the lens. Is 5% better worth 50% higher price or more?
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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THANK YOU for all the replies! Given so much work is being driven to web & small print, the opinions really factor in. I appreciate the candor of this community and the depth/variety it provides.
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It's not a question ofd being happy with sub-par equipment, but whether that equipment is sub-par or not. The question is also not whether OEM lenses are really better or are you just paying for a name. Anyone can go on and on about how good a $1500.00 lens is, but, if I don't have the money, I can't buy one. Economics professors argue that you have to make the choice based on the rate of return, the trouble is that you can't realistically estimate the rate of return without multiple trials of all the alternatives. As I said, it's pretty much a personal decision.

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I have the older Sigma 70-210 2.8 and the newer 20-40 2.8 zooms.....I have no issues with eather of them...I also Like my Tamron 28-105 2.8 how ever You might Check KEH.com for used glass... even there bargin stuff is pritty good...
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I really like the 28-70mm f2.8 tokina. I used it for 10 years with photojournalism. I found it reliable well made and sharp. Tokina also has good warrenties. I had on major issue and they sent me a new lens quickly. I do not recommend this lens for Canons because they really need the built in motors for AF, Nikon does not. Also you may look at this lens 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom Nikkor. Tokina does not take full advantage of Nikon DX tech.

Ps. I shot this image with the tokina at f2.8
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Old 12-10-2005, 01:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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It's not a question ofd being happy with sub-par equipment, but whether that equipment is sub-par or not. The question is also not whether OEM lenses are really better or are you just paying for a name. Anyone can go on and on about how good a $1500.00 lens is, but, if I don't have the money, I can't buy one. Economics professors argue that you have to make the choice based on the rate of return, the trouble is that you can't realistically estimate the rate of return without multiple trials of all the alternatives. As I said, it's pretty much a personal decision.

Bill

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Sorry Bill, I did not see anywhere that the original poster said he was on any type of budget. Nor did I see economics, professors or rate of return mentioned. If these are factors that YOU use in buying a lens, then I fully understand.

But I learned a long time ago not to ask "If any off brand Lens is any good", because you will always find dozens of people to say "YES they work fine for me" and well, that has really no basis of determining if I would be pleased with it... So my advise (and I follow it as well) is to ALWAYS buy the best possible Lens made by the company that made my Camera.
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