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Old 11-11-2005, 07:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone have experience with something like this:
http://www.amvona.com/v7/shop/?page=...roduct_id=2129

A continuous , cool light source for portraits as opposed to strobes. The salesman at my local camera store was pushing a set up like this.

Thanks for any insights.
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I myself prefer continous lighting. To me it goves more of a classic look and is not so bright as strobes. However I am going to get strobes also to use. If you want a set like this check out e-bay and do some bidding you may get it cheaper.
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Re: Continuous light versus Strobes
Old 11-11-2005, 11:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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As far as I know, the only continuous (and cool) lighting setup is the Kino-Flo flourescent system. I looked into it after the workshop, and they want big bucks for that setup.

If you get continuous lights, I'd recommend that you spend a little more and get a Photoflex Starlite kit (http://www.adorama.com/PFSK4.html?se...lite&item_no=6). Although the Starlite and the DynaPhos look the same (to me), I believe the bulb is different. The Starlite uses a double-envelope bulb, so you can handle the bulb with your bare hands when it's cool without fear of it breaking afterwards. Amvona.com doesn't say this in the specs of their unit, so I'm assuming that it doesn't have this feature. You *MIGHT* be able to use Starlite bulbs in the DynaPhos system though. With the starlite, it looks like you get to choose from a lot more accessories too.

BTW, I almost bought that starlite 2 light kit when I was originally shopping around for studio lighting. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I ended up going the strobe route (4x AB800's) because I got a student discount on my Bees.
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Old 11-11-2005, 11:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Actually there are a number of products that allow use of "cool" continous lights. One example is the Spiderlite used with fluorescent bulbs. The one that allows 4 bulbs will give you quite a nice light and works well in a soft box. The price on these units is reasonable. There is also another unit that is now in many camera shots that allows for three fluorescent bulbs and sells for less than $200. The prices on these types of units are coming down.
I often use my homemade system for portrait lighting. I bought 4 8" shop type reflectors that each have a clamp on the end to clap to a chair or a light stand. They were $5 each. I then buy the 27 to 32 watt twist fluorescent bulbs which give about 120 watts each. They cost about $4 per bulb (or a bit more if you get 5000K bulbs). With digital this is not absolutely needed, since you can set a custom white balance. But keep in mind that you will usually need to keep the shutter speed at 1/60th or below for this type of work to get consistent results.

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Old 11-12-2005, 02:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info. I figured somebody , somewhere made a fluorescent version of a starlite (http://www.fjwestcott.com/index.html), and that someone here would correct me. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I only started playing with Fluorescent lighting after the IGBN workshop. Before then, I never gave it much thought for use in photography. Like you, I built my own (aka: Ghetto-Flo). It's four shop lights arranged in a square, w/8 Philips Natural Sunshine 40-watt bulbs. I also built a frame for it out of PVC (less than $20 to make it), and the lights are attached to the frame with (automotive) hose clamps. I found my setup useable at ISO 200 1/60 f/3.5. Eventually, when I get the time and money, I'll make a better, more powerful version of it (I can already hear Tim Taylor saying... R-R-R!!).

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Old 11-12-2005, 07:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I bought my pvc pipe yesterday and will start building it today, but I think that will only work for headshots.
I appreciate the advice on the Starlight system, I'll do some more research.
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Old 11-12-2005, 07:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Your setup is pretty much like what Rolando showed us in his Philly workshop. I'm working on that this weekend.

I am interested in a system for a larger area and using a softbox, so your information is very helpful to me. Thanks
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Yes, we built the same shoplite type of thing:



They work great.

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Word of advice. Make the cross beam a little longer than it has to be. hehe. I made mine so I could change the angles, but the first time I forgot to make the cross sections a few inches longer. The side fixtures kept hitting the lower fixtures. heh. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

RFS, DAMN! I thought *I* went crazy building my frame! That's VERY impressive. The reason I call mine "ghetto" is that it looks terrible, but I built it like that so I could tear it down and store it.

Overall, I'm happy with it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 11-12-2005, 01:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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That's what I'm working on, but built out of PVC pipe so I can break it down fairly easily.

Are yuo using one or two bulbs in each fixture ?

Thanks for the help.

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