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Old 10-27-2005, 03:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I want to get a simple backdrop setup. Was thinking basic stands, crossbeam, and a 9' roll of white paper to mess with. now ive seen kits like this for $60-200 on ebay, walked into a store here in sac and they had one for $160 without any paper or backdrop...

suggestions or reccomendations? this seems like the type of thing where the quality isnt so important. I'm referring to the stands and crossbeam, i understand diff materials and colors DO matter.
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Without giving you drawings and such, here's a shopping list. A sharp saw or hacksaw for cutting PVC pipe, several lengths of 1-1/4" PVC pipe, one length of 1-1/2" PVC pipe, two 1-1/2" PVC pipe caps, several 1-1/4" elbows, two 5 gal buckets and a couple bags of quickcrete. Mix up the quick crete, one bag in each of the two buckets, set two short lengths of 1-1/2" pvc pipe upright in the center of each bucket. You might want to cap them to keep the concrete out of the pipe. When they set hard you have the supports for your system that are transportable, but WON'T fall over without considerable effort. use the 1-1/4" pipe and elbows to erect your uprights and crossbeam, to whatever length you wish. The 1 1/4" pipe will slide snugly inside the 1 1/2" pipe. If color is important. buy a can of black spray paint.
Everything on the list above will cost you under 60 bucks at your local home depot, and is more adaptable, adjustable, durable than any of the crappy tube steel setups I've gotten off ebay, and completely replaceable for another 60 bucks. This frame, of course, will work fine with either cloth or paper. Good luck.
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Without giving you drawings and such, here's a shopping list. A sharp saw or hacksaw for cutting PVC pipe, several lengths of 1-1/4" PVC pipe, one length of 1-1/2" PVC pipe, two 1-1/2" PVC pipe caps, several 1-1/4" elbows, two 5 gal buckets and a couple bags of quickcrete. Mix up the quick crete, one bag in each of the two buckets, set two short lengths of 1-1/2" pvc pipe upright in the center of each bucket. You might want to cap them to keep the concrete out of the pipe. When they set hard you have the supports for your system that are transportable, but WON'T fall over without considerable effort. use the 1-1/4" pipe and elbows to erect your uprights and crossbeam, to whatever length you wish. The 1 1/4" pipe will slide snugly inside the 1 1/2" pipe. If color is important. buy a can of black spray paint.
Everything on the list above will cost you under 60 bucks at your local home depot, and is more adaptable, adjustable, durable than any of the crappy tube steel setups I've gotten off ebay, and completely replaceable for another 60 bucks. This frame, of course, will work fine with either cloth or paper. Good luck.

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never even thought to MAKE one... and im a duct tape and super glue kind of guy.

but 1/4" pvc 9 feet in length as a crossbeam will tottaly bow... the weight will be distributed and pulling mainly on the ends near the stands so i guess it would be fine. despite portability this sounds like the way to go, i might have to improvise this idea to make it more portable, thanks!
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've got one I bought off ebay from amvona. It's OK, but wouldn't stand up to much abuse. The cross bar bends frighteningly when you put a roll of paper or heavy muslin backdrop on it. It does pack up nicely though, and it's easy to carry when it's in the bag. In general I'd say amvona's products are basically knock-offs of other products. Functional, but not quite as nice as the real thing.

Depending on what kind of space you're shooting in, I've seen several setups using a log dowel, some pulleys, and a lot of thin rope. Makes a pretty good permanent setup, if you can attach hooks to your ceiling. If I remember corretly, Andy Pearlman has posted about this before, with pictures.
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Old 10-27-2005, 09:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Savage Porta Stand

$99 and comes with some seamless white paper. This is what I use. Doesn't sag when I hang muslins from it either.

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This is what I did. I already had everything except the dowel rod so it was super cheap.


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Old 10-27-2005, 11:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I put a bogen super clamp on top of 2 regular lightstands.

I use an expandable closet rod which adjust from 8 feet to about 15 feet across the stands and held in place by the clamps. I got the rod from Home Depot for about 10 dollars.

For the same price as a "cheap" dedicated backdrop set up, you can get 2 heavy duty light stands, 2 bogen super clamps, and the closet rod.

Way more sturdy then the cheapo looking stands and cross bar you get with most "backdrop" kits.

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Old 10-27-2005, 01:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Calumet has their complete stand system on sale almost all of the time. It's really good -- ca go out to 12' and I believe it's 12' high too. Normal price is around $150 but it's worth it -- heavy duty. I've put mine through h3ll and it's still like new.

If it's for use in a studio I recommend the 3 roll holder that mounts on the wall and has a plastic chain drive to roll the paper up and down with. I got mine on EBay from Amvona for $23 plus their way high shipping rate of $25.

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the Heavy Duty Calumet Stand is about $150 and is made very well, I own one.

They have pretty good deals on paper too, but you may want to get that locally...

I use photek backgrounds in a bag, they are about $160 each but are a very soft velour, B&H has them...

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I want to get a simple backdrop setup. Was thinking basic stands, crossbeam, and a 9' roll of white paper to mess with. now ive seen kits like this for $60-200 on ebay, walked into a store here in sac and they had one for $160 without any paper or backdrop...

suggestions or reccomendations? this seems like the type of thing where the quality isnt so important. I'm referring to the stands and crossbeam, i understand diff materials and colors DO matter.

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I use two different stands. One is home made out of 2x4 lumber and some pipe and the other is a "store bought" brand (right now can't recall what brand). This is basically 2 13' light stands with a 3 section rod between them (total of 9 feet if I remember correctly). The kit cost about 160 if I remember correctly.

I use the store bought one the most (although I am straying away from backgrounds and electing to use environments) because of it's portability. The kit even came with a pretty nice case that holds all the parts. When I do use it, I work with both seamless and muslin...and it handles both well.

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