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FLASHES, on camera
Old 10-17-2005, 02:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My first choise is the 580 ex for my 20D... but are there any 3rd party flashes i should look into? as usual budget plays a huge role, if i want that 580EX i'll prolly be waiting for a couple months at least.

i need it for small events, doesnt have to be the best in the world, just functional basically.
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Re: FLASHES, on camera
Old 10-17-2005, 08:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I use the 420ex from Canon. It is quite powerful and has always worked well for weddings, parties, groupshots, etc.

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Re: FLASHES, on camera
Old 10-17-2005, 09:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Second the motion on the 420EX. While the 550/580 has more oomph, there comes a point where portable oomph is sufficient. The 500 series' other advantage is that they can be masters to the 400's slave, but since like me you have a tight budget, it's not like you're going to be running out and buying a couple of 4XX or 5XX to be slave flashes anyway.

I took this picture:



Near twilight in a forest with a 420 for fill, using indirect and a diffuser cap! I have another picture I took *after* sunset (during twilight) from forty feet away with the 420, which looks like the subject is being illuminated by a brilliant full moon, including water ripples. I don't have it handy for posting at the moment, but you can see it here:

Moonlit Regrets

When I took that picture it was so dark I couldn't even see the model through the rangefinder. Exposure was around 1/30th and aperture couldn't have been bigger than f4, ISO 400. As I said, it was after sunset and the model was forty feet away. Unless you're going to have more challenging shooting environments than that, I think the 420 will be plenty o' flash for you. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Whatever you buy, just keep in mind that the ability to pivot the flash in both dimensions is crucial. If you offered me a 580EX that wouldn't pivot for my 420EX that does, I wouldn't even have to think about turning it down. The 580 does pivot, but I was just using that as an example.

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Old 10-17-2005, 03:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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ttl etc for your 20d try not to stray from the 580. $20 rebate on it now.

If your looking for alternatives, maybe the Metz 54, but, honestly, 580 is what you would want, or the 430 from Canon.


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Old 10-18-2005, 02:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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580EX is the way to go, read the reviews on it like on dpreview.com, but it is dependent on what you need it for. I use it mostly for event photography with a diffuser on it so it isnt too harsh in nightclubs and at parties. i love it cause i can dial in stronger light then the knowing that the minisoftbox will stop it down a f/stop or two...
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get the EX580, it was designed specifically to work with your canmera, I see used ones all the time over on Fred Miranda.com
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I don't know much about the off brand options for on camera type flashes,...but I suspect that,.....knowing just how finiky the 20D bodies are with off brand lenses,...Sigma lenses in particular,...I just get nervous about using anything other than a Canon accessory with my Canon digital bodies... even the batteries.. I have found that I get fewer errors and "camera flip outs".. / quirtyness with the Canon 511A batrteries vs off brands like Promaster...or some other one that costs like half the amount the Canon batteries do.. I find myself opening the battery cover on the grip, pulling the batteries out, and switching their position and closing it up with the actual Canon batteries less often.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

However,.... I still use the 550EX flashes...they are found on auction sites now, and go for a lot less than a new 580EX flash,...which is a better flash, but the 550EX flashes are just fine for me, and I plan to upgrade my flashes in perhaps a few years from now.. very back burner stuff.. I use mine on Manual mode anyway.. I've grown used to what the ETTL will give me....which is almost always a nearly good looking shot.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] so I compensate for what I see in my scene,...or just use manual, and watch my distances.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I honestly don't think the 580 is that a whole lot better from what I've seen..

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