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First Outdoor Shoot, Need Advice on This Problem
Old 10-15-2005, 10:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I did my first outdoor shoot yesterday Every picture where the camera was towards the sun, and not in the shade, has the look below. They all appear grainy and blury. The shots where the camera is in the shade all came out clear.

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ND2 Filter
Polarizing Filter



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Re: First Outdoor Shoot, Need Advice on This Problem
Old 10-15-2005, 11:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Not sure you should be in the Tech Talk Forum. But you answered your own question in my opinion. The sun is a huge "main light" and we cannot turn it down to control the ratios for the fill and shadows. I always try to get the model in some shade, or shade her with a huge translucent fabric, use a tripod, use your lens shade or even my hand on occasion, and fill with flash or reflector. Lastly, I suggest the use of center weighted or closest object for studio in your controls for focus in portrait work.

Curious about the use of the polarizing filter?

Let's see the others that worked for you.



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Re: First Outdoor Shoot, Need Advice on This Problem
Old 10-15-2005, 11:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It looks to me like the focus point is on the rocks behind her. If you look just to her rt and lft the rocks seem sharp. Not sure if an out of focus could've created the grainy. Are you sure your lens and filter were completely shaded from the sun?
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Old 10-15-2005, 11:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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to keep the sun off the lens. Use a lens shade or have someone shade the lens. Also becareful shooting into the sun, I'm told you could irrepairably damage the sensor.
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Re: First Outdoor Shoot, Need Advice on This Problem
Old 10-15-2005, 12:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks. Since this happened on every shot, I figure it is a technique problem (hence here and not in photo critique).

I wasn't seeing any signs of lens flare, so I didn't shade the lens. Lesson learned.

This one came out well, the camera was in the shade of the tree as well. No retouching, straight RAW convert.



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Re: First Outdoor Shoot, Need Advice on This Problem
Old 10-15-2005, 12:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Are you sure your lens and filter were completely shaded from the sun?


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I'm quite sure they were not. And yes, it does look like the focus point was about a foot further back. I can't confirm that on all shots, but I did my usual compose, focus, re-compose and shoot. I'm thinking the strong sunlight directly on the lens may be confusing the AF. The graininess could be a result of too much light / light scatter within the lens.

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All good advice, and no, I wasn't shooting directly AT the sun, it was still pretty high behind her.

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Mucho Mejor!
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Re: First Outdoor Shoot, Need Advice on This Problem
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I'm thinking the strong sunlight directly on the lens may be confusing the AF

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Best arguement I've heard of for turning OFF the auto-focus, then.
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I don't see any lens flare here either so I'm not sure about the need for a lens hood, but you needed to have a reflector bounce back to the model or a fill flash. Here is a similar shot with the sun behind and up from the model with a reflector to light her up.



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