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Photoshop adjustments don\'t match Photo Lab prints
Old 09-03-2005, 06:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Browsing for a while & motivated by the excellent work here. Started practicing portrait work and doing adjustments in Photoshop but, when I send them to the lab for printing I'm getting very inconsistent results. I darken an overexposed face but the lab print comes back even hotter or lighter than before the darken adjustment. Seems like all the color is being removed. On other prints my monitor appears to match fairly close so I think that's ok.
I'm a bit confused about how my modes should be setup to make adjustments versus sending them to the print lab. Any ideas what's going on or direction to a good outline of setting up modes to adjust and print?

I'm using a Canon 20D, indoor Novatron strobes, Photoshop CS. I still need to figure out how to add some images to show as examples.

Thanks, JK
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Old 09-03-2005, 07:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Some labs auto correct images. If auto correction is an option, you might want to turn it off.
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Re: Photoshop adjustments don\'t match Photo Lab prints
Old 09-03-2005, 07:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You have to remember that most labs assume you screwed up and try to correct your 'error' with their machine's automatic adjustments. You can partly counter that by asking for 'no corrections' in the printing. You can also ask if they have color profiles which you can download to adjust your system to match theirs.

Or, best alternative, buy a good quality printer and print your own, that's what I do. With a bit of practice, you can do a better job than any lab!
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Re: Photoshop adjustments don\'t match Photo Lab prints
Old 09-03-2005, 07:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Heed the above but be aware that the labs may have a different profile. Ask the lab for their printer profiles and convert to that before sending them in.
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If you make adjustments in PS you want to be sure and save the color profile that you have. Otherwise the lab may be using their own or some other.

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PS: Make sure your monitor is calibrated too [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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It's going to be the labs auto adjustment. Just tell them to turn it off when they print your images. I had the samething happen to me.

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Ask to see if the lab can give you their color profile, the one I use gave us their profile and now what we see is what we get =).

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in addition to profiles from the lab you're using, you need to color calibrate your monitor. Color Plus is a cheap, reliable program and sensor that I use, it really does make a difference.

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Thanks everyone, I now have the color profile from one of the labs and get to do some testing today. Monitor cal is next!! Hope to have some good news to share soon. Printing at home will have to be a little further down in my budget so I'm hoping this keeps me moving. Of course, getting the right exposure the first time would help so I still have learning to do there.

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I'm a lab tech. Here is my advice.
First, use sRGB, not Adobe RGB.
Second, make minor adjustments, let the lab do their job.They know what to correct and how to for their printers. We are trained in color corrections. If you don't like how a lab prints, find another.
Third, take a print your lab made, and hold it up to your monitor to calibrate it.
Remember, your monitor isn't going to be calibrated to the lab's printer.
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