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Another monitor question
Old 07-03-2005, 02:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm thinking of giving up on the Lacie CRT in favor of an LCD. What kind of specs should I be looking for on a 19" unit? Also, I've seen some with contrast ratios ranging from 400:1 to 1000:1, but the prices don't seem to correlate. What is better, the higher ratio, or the lower ratio? I'm looking for a good PS machine obviously, if anyone has a specific model recommendation (not silver or white!), I'm all eyes.

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Re: Another monitor question
Old 07-03-2005, 03:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well for TRUE color management you HAVE to stick to CRT. But for most people, they don't need that level of color management. If you want an LCD then the higher the ratio the better. I don't think you can get above 1000:1 though. The best thing for you would be to see them for yourself instead of taking someone's word for it. If you can, take an image with LOTS of contrast and be sure it has blacks in it. As blacks and shadow detail are what you would have the most trouble.
 
 
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Andy, Lacie's LCD's are excellent. I am currently using their 19". When calibrated its color is a match to output done on the printers. Currently use Epson 2200, and 2 dye-subs. Additionally their support is excellent.

Thier ratios are 400:1 and 500:1 depending on the model.
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Oh my gawd...
Old 07-03-2005, 10:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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not another monitor question!!!

Andy... get a Mac!

The Apple Cinema display is extremely nice, go into Samy's and look at the setup they have upstairs, awesome. Anyway I digress, you should really stay with the LaCie if you are on the PC, their monitors rock... in fact, quite a few prepress houses use them. What seems to be your issue is your calibration, are you sure you are doing that correctly? All of the color houses I have worked with in the past five years are on LaCies, Apple displays, Barco (what I have), or the great Sony Artisan. I have one house I work with that use NEC but I personally believe they are Rev'd up Sony Trinitrons.

Maybe you need to just buy a spider and get that bad boy dialed in... or maybe it's the dark blue box.
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Re: Another monitor question
Old 07-03-2005, 06:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yes, but what system are you on? This same monitor I have looks great when I take it over to a friend's MAC, but on my PC, nada.

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Re: Oh my gawd...
Old 07-03-2005, 07:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Um.... "get a MAC"? You say that like you meant it! Ha ha.

First, I do have a spider, a Monaco OPTIX and I think I know how to use it. The problem I'm having is that when I set the WB to 6500, then go to adjust the three colors, the red is already at 100%, and the sliders indicate it wants more, what I estimate would need to be at 150% at least, which of course is not possible. The only WB I can use and have the ability to actually move the sliders is 9200 degrees.

The main sympton is that the color is over-saturated, and too yellow. If I open a shot in PS, then take out 20 points of saturation, it looks almost perfect. Obviously though, that would not be what I want to do. I'm wondering if the Monaco spyder is possibly defective, that's my next phone call on Tuesday. I also took the monitor and tried it on a friend's MAC, and it looks perfect, so I don't think its the monitor anymore, but it isn't doing me any good as it is. A knowledgable MAC friend thinks there might be an incompatibilty issue with the video card. (Note - my Dell LCD looks perfect on both of my Dell computers, including the one I'm trying to use the Lacie on, which is less than a year old.)

How can I be sure the spyder I'm using is not defective? Lacie is trying to get me to buy one of theirs - almost the cost of another monitor.

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Re: Another monitor question
Old 07-03-2005, 07:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I thought it was interesting that the Applec Cinema Display, that everyone seems to think of as the gold standard, is only a 400:1 contrast ratio, while there are many cheaper LCDs that claim higher ratios. Check out my reply to Robert and see what you think.

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Re: Another monitor question
Old 07-04-2005, 12:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Andy, I am using PC. However for a video card I use Matrox Parhelia 256MB AGP 8X. Calibrate with Pantone's Spyder.

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