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Old 06-08-2005, 01:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Don is thinking about getting a new camera and asked for opinion. I'm thinking about buying a new lens. There are a few reasons for this that kind of came to a head during BOTB2.

Muddy images I just don't get the crispness I see in other people's pictures. I do sharpening in post, but it isn't the same thing.

Need a bigger aperture My fastest lens is 4.5, my zoom is higher than that, especially when zoomed out.

I shoot a Nikon D70 and don't want to spend a lot of money. Preferably under $1000, way under. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

So that means I'm not going to get the VR zooms some other guys used. Looking around it probably means I'm not getting zoom at all.

So I'm considering a prime, probably either 85mm or 105mm. I want at least 2.8f.

Anyone have experience with this range of lens? Any suggestion on buying?
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Old 06-08-2005, 02:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have the Nikkor 85 - 1.8 and I am very happy with it.

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Old 06-08-2005, 02:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have an 85 1.8 that I use on my D2x and S2 and have been very pleased with the results.
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Old 06-08-2005, 02:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On the Canon side I use a 50mm 1.4 and love it. I wanted the equivalent of 80mm for in studio. That's pretty much the only time I use it. If cost is a factor than a prime will help you there. But you still won't get the type of images that a long fast lense will get you. As your focal length changes, your DOF gets less. Combine that with some fast glass and you get veryy little DOF. That's what gives you that sharp eye and then it falls out of focus rapidly.

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I've got an 85 1.8 AF and a 105 2.5 MF (oldie). I'll probably sell the 105 soon cause I don't use much anymore... no special reason, I just don't grab it out of the bag very often.

The 85 on the other hand is probably the sharpest lens I use regularly. I've got a 60mm 2.8 Micro too but it's not as sharp.

I've always preferred prime lenses but I just ordered a 28-70MM 2.8 Nikkor this AM. I tired of cleaning the sensor every few lens changes. The lens has a good reputation and B&H has them used every once in a while for $999.

I was having problems getting crisp images too. About the same time I was seeing Canon images that were the sharpest I've ever seen... like some people say, "almost too sharp"... almost.

So far I've learned that Nikon DSLRs are sensitive to shake, more so than a film camera. Don't ask me why, it just seems to be true. You can try some tests shooting handheld with and without strobe.

I've also leanrned that a lot of Nikon DSLR bodies shipped with back-focus problems. It seems to depend on the lens, either component could have an alignment problem. The standard test is to shoot a scale wide open at 45 degrees to see if what you focus on is what is actually is at the center of zone of focus. Chek Nikonians.com. Lots of info about back-focus problem there.

I've been working on my hand-holding and I'm getting sharper hand-held shots. I may send my D1X in for a checkup pretty soon. We'll see how it perfoms with this new lens and some back-focus tests.
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Old 06-08-2005, 02:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If you like primes, why not try both the 85 f/1.8 and 50 f/1.8. I have the 50mm and love it for available light on my D70. That and it's only $100 at B&H. I opted to use the AF-S 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED and AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8D ED tandem for my indoor work. Granted the big gun was $1100 used, but man is that thing sharp.
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Old 06-08-2005, 02:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I just bought two new lenses and will highly recommend either.

The nikon 35mm - 70mm f2.8 absolutley rocks in my little studio, good zoom range crisp and SHARP. It's a push pull zoom, kind of heavy if you're used to G-lenses but once you get used to it it really works.

I got the sigma 70mm - 200mm f2.8 for horse shows and what not and, after a bit of getting used to, can say it has already produced some amazingly detailed, sharp images of riders going over jumps all the way across a ring. I've done some casual portrait stuff with it and for middle distance headshots, so far, it is amazing.

I also use the Nikon 50mm f1.8 a lot, in studio and out in the world, it's way cheaper than the 85 because it's not as popular a focal length but but for half body/headshot portrait style work on low light it really does the job for me. Right after I got it a did some work with a bunch of riders in a barn between rounds and sold enough prints to pay for the lens two or three times over.

I shoot on a couple of D-70's by the way.

Best of luck with the new glass,

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Old 06-08-2005, 03:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm also a Canon shooter, so I can't help you directly with Nikon's lenses too much. I'll just offer some general help, if I can.

Generally, a prime will be sharper, wider, and (usually) cheaper than the zoom counterpart. I bought an 85 f1.8 that I use on a 1.6 crop camera because I like the look that people get from a 70-200 f:2.8, but I can't afford the big zoom. The 85mm prime gives me the same sort of compression, and wide open the DOF is very small.

This is a quick headshot I did in a parking lot with the 85mm prime at f:2.2. The background turns to mush nicely. I don't know what Nikon's equivalent costs, but for a Canon this lens is around $350. I'd expect Nikon's can't be far off.





Anyway, a nice wide aperture is certainly good to have. Lots of fun to play with and a must if you do any indoor photography without strobes.
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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85mm f1.8D is awesome as is the 35-70mm 2.8D push pull zoom. The 50mm f1.8D and the 35mm f2.0D are also good lenses. All depends on what you normally shoot and where.

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Old 06-08-2005, 03:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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So your 50 turns into 80 on a Canon. What was that new lens you got after BOTB2? It was long.
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