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what medium format camera?
Old 05-12-2005, 11:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What medium format camera would you recomend me for fashion photography.I am curently on digital and finaly decided to buy medium format . I have a budget of 1300-1500 dollars. I thinking of buying hasselblad 500 or 501 . Do you have any other sugestions?
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Greetings! Mamiya RB & RZ series. KEH Mamiya has decent prices and they have a good reputation. Try one out and rent before you buy, to find out for yourself the differences between the Mamiya and Hassy. Most of the fashion and beauty is done with the Mamiya due to it's 6x7 format. I think Annie Leibovitz uses that format.
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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From what I've heard 6x7 is the MF standard for fashion work, specifically the Mamiya RB and RZ cameras. These are huge camera and definately need a sturdy tripod. I don't know your level of experience, but if you just want to test the waters of MF photography, the Koni-Omega Rapid M or Rapid 200 are great MF starter cameras. They're 6x7 rangefinders with mid-roll changeable backs and have 4 lenses to choose from (60mm, 90mm, 135mm, 180mm). They take hassy quality pics and generally run about $250 (or less) on ebay for a body, lens, and back.
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The only reason I would like to buy Hassie and not Mamiya is becouse it is much smaler so it is easier to work on location. I even considered Pentax 67 but it has 1/30 flash sync and that again it is not good for location work .
 
 
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Go for the 6x7 format rather than the smaller and far more expensive Hassie negative. Yes they are heavy, but I hand held one for many years with an accessory grip.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I love Hasselblads... but I don't... mainly because of the prices. When I got into medium format I did a lot of checking and research. I was leaning towards Hasselblad going in... I use Nikon for 35mm and a Sinar for 4x5.
When it was all said and done, I bought a Mamiya RZ67... I haven't regretted it but then I don't use it much either.

Hasselblads are nice and small for an MF camera which probably makes them more useful for fashion... you can easily shoot them handheld.

They have a big system of killer glass but Mamiya has good glass too.

They have a square format which to me, makes you have to think more about finished composition. The RZ back rotates so it's easier to compose a normal aspect shot. Don't get me wrong, visualizing the composition is crucial; I just thinks it's faster if the frame is already there.

Now that high resolution digital SLRs are available, medium format applications are shrinking in the commercial world. I suppose fashion is different because of the routinely heavy cropping involved. With a high end scanner you can get a 7500 x 7500 pixel scan from a 6x6 neg... that's a lot of pixels. But those scans take time and cost money. A D2X will give you, I think like, 4200 pix on the long side, not bad really, it's still a lot of pix.

Just to give you an idea; I've got an Imacon film scanner, an autoprocessor an RZ67 and a D1X. I shoot between 200 and 1000 commercial frames a week with the digital. Last time I shot the RZ for money was in November... I just put the scanner up for sale on eBay this week... I'll probably keep the processor for personal stuff and the occaisional 4x5 job, but my commercial film days are all but over. I'll probably try to sell the RZ locally.

Everything's a trade-off.

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The only reason I would like to buy Hassie and not Mamiya is becouse it is much smaler so it is easier to work on location.

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For what it's worth... I have an RB. I have shot handheld on locations a bunch with it. It really isn't so bad once you get used to it, but I have never shot fashion and don't plan to start now. The down side to an RB compared to an RZ is cocking the shutter and advancing the film in two motions if you don't have the auto advance back. The RZ you have to flip a switch to rotate the back and you have to be aware of battery life. I've shot with Hassies and Mamiya for years. The Mamiya optics may not quite equal the lenses on a Hassie, but they come pretty damned close. I just bought another RB off ebay this morning. Personally, I find it easier to compose with the 6X7 than the square.
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I've always had Hassy gear and never regreted it. I've had the chance to use everything,,, and I do mean EVERYTHING.. and the Hassy gear simply can't be touched. I've even done side by side tests with the hassy up against the RZ67.. and even with TWICE the film size.. the Blad images where crisper. It's all in the lenses.. and I guess that's why they are so darn expensive. You should be able to pick up a 501 with lens and a-12 back for the 1500 range. I don't think you'll be dissapointed.

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I used an RB67 for many years. But is is a very heavy camera. It gave fantatic results. If you only have $1500 to spend, you will probably have to take some big shortcuts however, even if you go used. It will be a real challenge to buy a complete setup (camera body, backs, poloroid back, 2 or 3 lens, etc.) for anywhere close to your budget. Also this film, not digital. Add another $4000 and up for a digital back. Keep in mind that you will also have more trouble getting your film processed than with 35mm. So its a big leap. What with the tremendous advances in digital on 35mm, you might want to take a long hard look at what you want to do.
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i would go mamiya (or any other) 645 over a regular hassy because of the square format. you'll be wasting a lot of negative space. nobody prints square for fashion. forget pentax 645. not impressed with it. contax is great, but pricey like the hassy. mamiya is your best bet. get a pro TL and some leaf shutter lenses and you're set.

definitely a mamiya rz67 if you can live with the size/weight. 6x7 negs/trannies are fantastic.



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