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Old 04-13-2005, 02:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys,

I recently made a post about modelling portfolios, and I didn't think to ask this, but if you're printing traditional black & white for a model portfolio, does it matter what type of paper the prints are (RC or fiber)? I know that all traditional color paper is RC, and you can't get the "luster", "pearl", etc. surfaces with fiber.

Any help y'all can give would rock. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Re: RC or fiber?
Old 04-13-2005, 06:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Go with the RC. It's cheaper, lasts just as long and doesn't curl on you while it dries. Use the fiber for your fine art work.

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Old 04-13-2005, 08:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cool, Rick. To be honest, I've never used RC paper before, but for something like this, it did seem like it'd be the way to go.

Thanks for confirming it for me. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 04-13-2005, 08:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I know that all traditional color paper is RC, and you can't get the "luster", "pearl", etc. surfaces with fiber.

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Actually, a fiber paper marked "glossy" looks much closer to RC paper marked luster or pearl unless you ferrotype it. It has a little more sheen than the RC stuff, but it's not anywhere near an RC gloss. Also, different manufacturer's papers can look quite different, so not all "matte" and "glossy" finishes are created equal, either. The type of paper (bartya, cotton rag, etc.) has an effect on the surface appearance too. Finaly, for even more fun, you can throw warm, cold, and neutral-toned emulsions into the mix.

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Old 04-13-2005, 09:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Whachu mean "you can't get the 'luster', 'pearl', etc., surfaces with fiber"? You'd better believe you can! You can get glossy, semi-glossy, luster, matte, semi-matte, pearl, and satin! You can even get warm or cool b+w paper. All in fiber! That's for "traditional" dark room, of course.

For digi printing, jeez, you can get all kinds of finishes from rag paper to canvas to watercolor paper to a more traditonal RC look.
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Whachu mean "you can't get the 'luster', 'pearl', etc., surfaces with fiber"? You'd better believe you can! You can get glossy, semi-glossy, luster, matte, semi-matte, pearl, and satin! You can even get warm or cool b+w paper. All in fiber! That's for "traditional" dark room, of course.


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You can?? I've only ever seen those surfaces offered for RC! Shows you what I know. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] I knew about the warm- & cooltone papers, but again, I've only seen those for RC, too.

For digital printing, I've gotten pretty partial to cotton rag. Ilford makes a good one, and Epson's Velvet Fine Art paper makes for some really beautiful prints.

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Old 04-13-2005, 09:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yep, looks like there's lots of stuff out there for me to play with. I've never done any ferrotyping, but from what I've read about it, it sounds pretty cool. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 04-13-2005, 10:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Sam, after extinsive testing of both RC and Fiber paper made by Kodak, Ilford, and Orental, I have found some conclusive results. RC is much faster as far as processing. Fiber gives a whole different feel to the same photo. Here are my recommendations for both types. If short on time, RC is the way to go. But, if you have the time, I would use fiber for art and portraits. A glossy on fiber is like a luster or pearl on RC. The contrast is highest on RC glossy as a general rule. Anyways, good luck, if any more questions, feel free to email or pm me.

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Cool, Isaiah, thanks for the info. If I do end up doing this modelling portfolio, time will probably be tight, so I may have to go with the RC, at least initially. One thing I am pretty excited about and I will most definitely be using fiber are printing some 6x6 negs that belonged to my friend's wife's grandad (I think) when he was in the Phillippines during World War II. They're way dirty, but I'm gonna clean 'em up for them and print a few.

I sent you a PM, too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks!

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I'd love to see some of those when you're done. No problem, sent you a pm back.

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