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Old 04-12-2005, 10:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I shoot a Canon 20D and need to get a new flash today.... I will be doing weddings and using it for fill flash outdoors.... Is the TTL thing worth the money?
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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PhotoTexas,

I have the 20D and use the 420ex and the 550ex. I don’t really like either.

I was told by a canon engineer that with the 20D, Canon uses the camera to subject distance to figure flash output in the camera not the flash. AND this information comes from the canon lens. Thus you will get underexposed images with non-canon glass and TTL.

I have not used the Metz flashes but I do hear good things about them. No fuss just a basic flash. BUT I have not used it...

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Old 04-12-2005, 11:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I got the Sigma digital flash EF-500 DG for Nikon... and it has been pritty good so far...
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The Canon 580EX will smoke anything on the market. Its expensive, but the output, features, and battery life make up for the added cost. Its perfect for weddings, and what ever else. You will be amazed at the output and control you will have.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I've got a Metz 60-CT and it's just like Christopher says. It's a straight flash with a single output and you control the amount of light with aperture, ND filters and bounce. That sounds like more of a pain than it actually is. You just test and practice with it and learn what kind of histograms to look for; it gets to be second nature after while. You'll know where and when to bounce based on the aperture you're using.

I use it with an F4s and a D1X. I've never used an automatic flash... not that I wouldn't, it's just how I learned.

You might consider a Metz 45 series. The 60 is really powerful, you can knock down flys with it. It has a dryfit (gel-cell) battery that will go bad if you don't cycle it regularly. I use it mostly at a distance of over 15', it will illuminate subjects at nearly 50'. The 45 is still very powerful but you can work in close with it.

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Old 04-12-2005, 11:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I love that shot. I do a lot interior architectural photography and have been wanting to do some dusk and night exteriors like that.

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Old 04-12-2005, 01:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks,

I never got it right until I moved away from Phoenix and was back on a visit...

Now that I am in Atlanta, I have found the spot, now I just need to get it done...

Again thanks...



Hopefully I will be in the pit and not in the seats with the Charter folks this year...

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I use Metz simply because I have three different camera systems and I can use the same flashes by swapping modules. The flash bodies cost you $320 (54MZ-4), but then you buy the modules for $60-150 each. It's more flexible and less expensive. I only need three flashes instead of nine. Metz gives you all the features of Canon and Nikon. You can get wireless TTL, high-speed sync, and the rest of the bells and whistles.

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Old 04-12-2005, 09:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It's probably too late, but I love my sunpak 120j. I use it for weddings, bands, location portraits, etc. It's powerful and versitile. Sorta like a poor man's Quantum.
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