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here is one for the printing experts
Old 04-04-2005, 09:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I took a few shots of my niece and her friend. I did some ajustments in photoshop and printed one image. It looked ok for a fast edit. Then I put the files on a cd and gave my nieces friend a copy. She went to the local drug store and printed the pictures and they looked real bad. So how can I make sure when I give out image files to people they can run down to the local walmart and print them out and have them come out looking great ? I did a test with another image and the same thing happened to me. It looks great on my epson printer but they look real bad on the walmart prints.

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Re: here is one for the printing experts
Old 04-04-2005, 10:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Only question I would have...is did you resize the images to the size they wanted to print? or did you let the machine at walmart resize them?
if the walmart machine resizes them...Im betting there is some major compression and distortion going on there.
just a guess....
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Depending on the machinery at the place of printing you may need to send a color profile for them to match. Most of the noritsu machinery out there can be set to any digital profile

,,,,,, if they got idiots working there , here is option #2. Give her a small print 4x6 nothing fancy to your standards, have her bring it to the lab and simply state "match the color in this print, or to best of there ability"

with digital, unless they receive instructions, it is up to there judgement, they don't know what you would want it to look like otherwise and would trust there software

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Don has an excellent point. Not all software is created equal. Photoshop has jut about the best resizing technology on the market. One other idea that you might try if you aren't doing it already. Do a "Save As" save it as whatever file type and name you want but look for a box in that window that you can check that will include whatever profile you are using into the file so that the next machine will read that profile when it reads the file and hopefully use it weell.

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Re: here is one for the printing experts
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I've not tried this myself but I know some reliable people who have and say it works well.

You go to this website for Dry Creek... http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Frontier/index.html

They profile lab printers, mainly the big ones like Fuji Frontier and Noritsu for all kinds of national retail labs like Costco, Walmart, etc... and they give the profiles away so people like us can make color managed prints with those labs.

You could use their database to find a local lab for your niece to use; download the profile and convert your photos to it; send the files to her and she could take them to be printed.

That's the hard way.

The easier but less precise way is to make sure your images have the sRGB profile attached. Most Fuji Frontier printers are setup to print using sRGB and most digital cameras default to the sRGB color space.


Another possible problem is JPEG compression. Try uncompressed (best quality) JPEG files. As the files are compressed, they lose data and with it goes quality. This will happen every time they're saved if compression is cranked up. If she opens and saves the files they will be re-compressed and depending on the program she's using the loss could be pretty dramatic. You could just use TIFs but some retail labs won't print anything but JPEGs.

That's what comes to mind right off. It could be plenty of other things but to isolate the problem, getting the color profile and the compression locked in to a known state will help a lot.

Hope you get your problem fixed.

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the culprit is the adjustments you made for your printer. IF your monitor is correctly adjusted and IF the prints looked good on the monitor the save the files to sRGB with no ICC's. Ask the priner to print one and adjust to color.
Go to the following site and download the test images and see how they look on your screen then have your processor print an un adjusted file to see how they match up. The downloaded file is the standard and should not be adjusted.

http://www.inkjetart.com/custom/
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