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I noticed today that lenses are expensive.
Old 03-05-2005, 09:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The lenses that are made by the camera company and the lenses for certain cameras, by some unknown company are all really expensive. Why is it? What's makes them so worth that much money? I Looked at flashes by Nikon and canon and then ones from other companies for nikon and canon and the price difference wasn't that different to?
The prices on flashes had gone up in a week's time. So I gave up on getting one. Cripes sakes even the pawn shop stuff was close to that of the brand new stuff!
To me it's discouraging to see stuff so high priced.

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Re: I noticed today that lenses are expensive.
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Go Ebay and pick up a Vivitar 283 flash to go with that Canon F1 you have, they are great workhorse flash units. As for the lens' its all in the glass and aperature. The better the glass and the larger the aperature the more expensive they will be. If your just starting out and into Portraits, stills and Glamour (anyone jump in and disagree anytime!) go with either a zoom in the range of 70-210mm in a fixed aperature or I work with a older 35-70mm fixed f4 and a 135mm f2.8 and a 200mm f3.5 Seriously though check out Ebay you'll find some great and some not so great bargains and like some others have recommended read anything you can get your hands on. Good luck and love your portfolio.
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Re: I noticed today that lenses are expensive.
Old 03-05-2005, 09:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The expense generally is based on how wide the lens will open up as in 2.8, 1.8, 1.4, etc. The longer the lens and the lower the aperature number the higher the price (and also the bigger the lens). Also they have to add all sorts of extra glass, and rare glass and super coatings to get rid of aberations, vignetting, and a host of other techie things. But in the lens world you pretty much get what you pay for. That's why you see so many white lens on the sidelines of football games (most of them cost from $1500 to $7000 per lens).
I go the cheaper route. I usually buy Tamron. With my trusty 28-300 Tamron XR lens I can get most any shot I want and its quite sharp. I paid $375 for the lens but I could have paid $1500 for the manufacturer model. And guess what, it might have been 5% better than the one I have. But wow, that's quite a price difference for only 5% improvement. But that would be worth it to a pro in some cases.
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You can thank your government for spending more than it should and Americans from buying more imports than they should. Bottom line, the dollar is down about 30%. We do a lot of things well, why can't we make good lenses that are reasonalble?
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Re: I noticed today that lenses are expensive.
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I'll second the recommendation on the Vivtar 283. I have one for my old Canons. It works great and isn't nearly as expensive as one for the newer cameras. Looks like the lowest priced on I see on EBay at the moment is about $25.00.

For lenses search EBay for Canon and FD. That will turn up the older style lenses. They won't work on the new Canon cameras, so they don't sell for very much anymore. At the moment (ending in about 30 minutes) there is a generic 135mm, f2.8 lense for $15.50, for example. There is also a Canon 70-210 f4 lense sitting at $30. Now, the resale value on any of this isn't going to be very good, but for gear to learn with (as long as you're wanting to shoot film) you can't hardly do better for the money.

I've hung onto my old gear so my son has something to learn with if he decides he's interested.

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What else will I need?I have so far is the stuff listed below.
The Canon stuff.
2 50MM lenses
a 135MM lens
a 70 - 210MM lens
a 2X convertor
a canon flash
a seperate flash bracket
A flash for that flashbracket with a telephone cord thingie
A canon new f1 body
a canon ae finder fn
a normal finder fn
An autowinder fn
a data back on the camera
a regular back
Some focusing screens (pieces of glass surrounded by metal. No idea where they click on)
And that's it for the Canon.
The nikon I have has
Nikon N75 body with built in poopie flash
28 to 80mm lens
75 to 300mm lens
A Bogen black tripod that extends to a tall tripod
I bought color film today. Some Fuji 100, 400, and 800 speed film.
What am I missing? When I go to use one of these cameras, which will make me look more like a real photographer? Anyone know which one is better for people, nature pics?

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The secret is to wear them both. Then people will sit up and take notice. You've seen all those movies where the photographers have two SLRs around their neck. Well now you can joing them. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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A hand held meter, a good imagination and to get out there and start burning film to get used to the camera/cameras and start learning photography.

You want to look like a real photographer or become one?
Baby steps....learn the basics.
I would suggest you go to your local Community college and find a basic/beginers photography class.
There you will learn about film speed, f-stops, depth of field, shutter speeds, focal length, etc....etc.

Good luck in your endeavors.

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Yes, good lenses are expensive!

It seems like you have a pretty good system to get started. Heck, I still shoot with my 30+ year old Nikon F2 from time to time. Concentrate on your photography skills, not the equipment. Your eye for art makes the photo not the camera.

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Other than a hand held meter, you've got about everything you could want. For the F-1, I prerred the flat ground focusing screan with the polished center spot. Worked great for portrait type work. They go in under the finder (eye piece). I also used the AE finder.

Either camera will take pictures of about anything you want. I'd start with one and learn it before going on an leanring the other. You have a good assortment of equipment for the F1, so I'd suggest starting there. Look at which focussing screens you have. Somewhere in the manual it should tell you which one has which metering. That camera changed metering types (how much of the picture and where was metered) by changing the focusing screens.

Which ever one you pic, have fun with it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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