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The \"cheapie\" Canon EF 50mm 1.8 prime
Old 02-14-2005, 04:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i was at a camera show yesterday--used, vintage, new equipment. usually, i'm looking for lighting and grip at these things. but this guy had a canon EF 50mm 1.8--the cheapie one--that he only wanted $50 for. so i bought it.

i usually use my 85mm 1.8 prime for portraits, but with the 1.6x sensor factor on my 10D (which makes my 85mm roughly equivalent to a 135mm portrait lens--which i, for the most part, a good thing) i sometimes have to move too far away if i'm shooting much wider than a head-n-shoulders shot. so i thought i'd give the 50mm a whirl since it didn't cost me much.

I was thinking that if I like it, especially from a focal length POV, I'll get the better version of this lens (but still the 1.8 cuz i've read a couple of reviews that favor it over the 1.4). I'll probly then give this one to my daughter for to use on her Rebel--she's a budding photographer and she's getting pretty good.

anyway, the vendor i bought the lens from swears the 'cheapie' version is the exact same optics as the 'not-so-cheap' version... that the only difference is the better one is a metal-body lens vs. plastic on the 'cheapie.'

does anyone know if this is true? or if there's any other important differences between the cheap one and the more expensive one? i mean, if the only difference is plastic vs. metal, and since i probly won't be using the lens all that often, i might as well keep the plastic one.
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Re: The \"cheapie\" Canon EF 50mm 1.8 prime
Old 02-14-2005, 04:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Jimmy, I just purchased that same lens from Jason at Unique Photo. I also purchased the 85mm prime @ 1.8 but wouldn't you know it, I got a back order from Canon. Anyway, I am no pro as you know, but the pics I posted of Jessica yesterday (you offered critique on a couple of them)were ALL taken with that lens. I also added a few in my port that I have not posted for critique yet if you care to look at those. While I was in the market for the 85 mm 1.8, Jason sold me on the "cheapie" simply because for the money it really captures some nice images....I can't wait for the 85 now....

Heres another taken with the "cheapie"




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Re: The \"cheapie\" Canon EF 50mm 1.8 prime
Old 02-14-2005, 04:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The glass is not identical. The f1.8 has 6 elements, the f1.4 has 7. I don't know enough about lens design to know what the difference means. I do know that the cheapie f1.8 has only 5 diaphram blades while the f1.4 has 8. That will make a bit of difference in your out-of-focus highlights (more round). I've also heard that the f1.4 has nicer bokeh, but I don't remember seeing side-by-side comparisons.

Also, the f1.4 has full-time-manual and a USM motor, while you've probably noticed the f1.8 has a cheaper, noisier motor. I've heard that there's not really that much difference in focus speed though.

Personally, I haven't been compelled to upgrade to the f1.4. The 50mm cheapie is pretty nice for full-length shots in the studio, and it's fun for various low-light shooting. Like parties.

For my money I'd just buy another one and give it to your daughter. Unless you have money burning a hole in your pocket, the f1.8 should be fine for the kind of shooting you do.

Other opinions may differ.

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Re: The \"cheapie\" Canon EF 50mm 1.8 prime
Old 02-14-2005, 05:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I can't vouch for if it is the same glass or not, but I can say that I LOVE my cheapo 50mm 1.8!!!!
I use it about 85% of the time! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: The \"cheapie\" Canon EF 50mm 1.8 prime
Old 02-14-2005, 05:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Larry mentioned the main differences of the 50 1.8 (cheapie) versus the 50 1.4. One of the more glaring differences is one photographers around the world applaud about

*New*
50mm 1.4 Canon USA - $309.95
50mm 1.8 Canon USA - $74.95

So, when something bad happens to that lens, or if you lose it, or simply like to have backups, you have about 4 50mm 1.8 cheapie lenses instead of the 50mm 1.4. And as you have seen in the below post, a 50mm 1.8 can still do some great shooting regardless of the elements and construction [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I so miss using my cheapie lens, one of the things I miss most about Canon shooting. And as I told Bobby down there, nothing wrong with having an 80mm 1.8 lens for $75 when you factor in the 1.6x from his Canon Digital SLR [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

...... I must go Canon soon, this is torture to even think about!

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Old 02-14-2005, 06:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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actually, i wasn't talking about the cheapie 1.8 vs. the much more expensive 1.4. i was talking about the cheapie 1.8 vs. another 50mm 1.8, i.e., the more expensive, metal-bodied 50mm 1.8.

I've read some reviews re the 1.4 vs. (the more expensive) 1.8 and they definitely favor the 1.8.

i'm guessing the glass is the same in both and the chief differences are probly the body (metal vs. plastic) and the auto-focus motor.
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Re: The \"cheapie\" Canon EF 50mm 1.8 prime
Old 02-14-2005, 06:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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bobby, i'm liking this shot. i'm not crazy about where her left hand ended up and your strobes probly wouldn't have fired multiple frames in multi-burst. nice work tho. start providing EXIF data!!
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Re: The \"cheapie\" Canon EF 50mm 1.8 prime
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Thanks, Jimmy...I must have turned off the EXIF info by mistake because it's not posting it in my port either....

50mm 1.8 cheapie
125 @ 6.3
ISO 100
White Balance set to sunny

I was standing about 12-15 feet from model
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When I registered my camera, I filled out an on line survey, and for doing so Canon sent me a hardbound book of their lens's. The only 50mm 1.8 in the book is this one. I recentley bought one for about 70 bucks. I figure I can shoot a standing full body frame from about 15'

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You're right, i was confusing it with the 50mm 2.5 macro... here's the B&H prices for the various canon 50mm lenses. So i guess the reviews i read were comparing the 1.4 and the 1.8

Canon Imported
Price : $ 294.95
Shipping Cost
Normal EF 50mm f/1.4 USM Autofocus Lens 50mm f/1.4 USM Autofocus Lens


Canon 50mm f/1.4 USM Autofocus Lens
Canon USA
Price : $ 309.95
Shipping Cost
Normal EF 50mm f/1.4 USM Autofocus Lens 50mm f/1.4 USM Autofocus Lens


Canon Normal EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens
Canon Imported
Price : $ 69.95
Shipping Cost
Normal EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens Normal EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens


Canon Normal EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens
Canon USA
Price : $ 74.95
Shipping Cost
Normal EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens Normal EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens


Canon 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro Autofocus Lens
Canon Imported
Price : $ 229.95
Shipping Cost
Normal EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro Autofocus Lens 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro Autofocus Lens


Canon 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro Autofocus Lens
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Price : $ 239.95
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Normal EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro Autofocus Lens 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro Autofocus Lens

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