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Old 02-08-2005, 03:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking into buying a couple of strobes. These are rated at 250Ws x 2 and possibly one 110Ws strobe to use either as a hair or background light...if I can stretch my finances far enough.

What I want to know from you guys is whether that would be enough power to freeze a pose without getting alot of blur?

Also, would this be a good starting point for someone just starting out?

NB. I'm not talking about fast action shots but being able to get a nice sharp shot when the model is in her 'routine' so that it does not look too posed.
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Old 02-08-2005, 05:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Hi Coz, welcome to GG forums.
A quick question before I answer ok?

The explanation you gave mentioned " When the model goes through her routine" Does this mean you'll be doing fashion photography and using a camera with a motor drive to do your photo shoots?

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I use 1000WS lights at work and have never had to turn them all the way up. In fact, I've had several instances where I couldn't turn them down far enough, so at normal shooting distances you should have no problem. Don't worry about freezing the action unless you're dragging the shutter for effect. Even the longest strobe pop is usually shorter than 1/1000 second.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you give us an idea on your budget for your lighting we can make a few tried and true suggestions.

From your original post the 110 ws light sounds like it will be a jtl or equal and I can tell you it does have a dial on the back, but it doesn't do much. If you are able to shop them in person, ask to borrow a meter and check to make sure the lights actually adjust as they should. Early on, I bought a jtl versalight. Damn thing drove me nuts until I got a meter and noticed the only adjustment I had with it was to physically move it around.
If your budget is in the range of 500 to 700, then go with the alienbees. The ab400 are plenty of light unless you are shooting a car. The modifiers are inexpensive and support is the best around. I wish I had spent all of my lighting money with them, I would be dollars ahead.

AlienBee's site is AlienBee

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Old 02-09-2005, 01:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Firstly, thanks guys for your input. I really do appreciate it.

CJ my budget at the moment is in the region of $700 - $859 at the moment...hope I got my currency concersions right. For that kind of money would I be adle to get a similar AB set-up to the one I mentioned in my first post?

The strobes I mentioned are by Falcon Eyes. I don't know I good they are but somebody here did mention that they do good good reviews in an earlier post of mines. For around $650 this is what they are offering:
2 x 250Ws strobes
2 x air cushioned stands - 2,6 metres
1 x reversible umbrella - 32" (gold, silver)
1 x softbox - 90cm x 90cm
1 x aluminium case
1 x stand bag
The quote also includes shipping.

Is what they are offering a good deal or should I keep shopping?


Hey Hollywood, thanks for the welcome. It's been wonderful here and extremely educational. With regards to your question, no I will not be using a motor drive...what I was trying to get at is that I would like to be able to take a shot of a model sometimes where the model is not striking a pose and waiting for me but rather when I see something I like that the model is doing I'd like to be able to capture it without blur spoiling the shot. That is why I asked whether the set-up I mentioned would be adequate.
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I went to Falcon Eyes website and they have almost no technical details. But I would bet that these units are going to recycle very very slowly. That will have a major impact on shooting glamour. The ABs recycle in .5 seconds which is what you need for fast shooting. I have found that low end units often have lots of limitations. If you can publish a link to the full specs of the Falcon Eyes, I can give you a comparison on the Bees. If you buy ultra cheap at the beginning, you often regret it later.
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The link to the site is this
The reason I looked at these strobes, except for price, is that there is a distributor available here in South Africa and it might of made things easier if I picked up a problem with them.

I appreciate your help and helping me make a better decision.
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