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Old 02-07-2005, 06:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Have any of you ever used (or seen) a white vinyl background sold on Ebay by Backdrop Outlet. It is 10' x 20', and would cost about $100.00 with shipping. I wonder if they work well, are there any problems with glare, etc... Any information would be appreciated. Let me know if you have a better idea.
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Old 02-07-2005, 07:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello,

I purchased that very same back ground that you’re talking about. I have done many shoots with it. The picture below was one of them. I’m still starting out so I can’t really tell you much about it other than, it’s easy to clean and I like it much better than paper I used to use. It is pretty heavy though something to keep in mind if you travel with it.

Sorry I guess I cant get a picture up here.

If you go to that other model place and type in member number 91237 anything you see in that portfolio that has a white background was shot using the white vinyl

I hope I did not break any rules by posting the above I have never posted here before.
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About that white vinyl....
Old 02-07-2005, 10:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I haven't looked at eBay so I am not sure exactly what you mean by white vinyl. In looking at your page on that other place, it seems the material is kind of like a cloth, a white plastic table cloth so to speak. Is that what the material is like?

My notion of white vinyl is the stuff they put down on floors. About an 1/8th inch thick and definitely not meant to be flexed much, although it can be rolled up.

But as I said I haven't seen the eBay description.

I use seamless paper, it doesn't "wrap" at all, it wrinkles, and gets dirty and gets torn, etc. When it does, I turn it over until it's dirty on that side. Then I cut off the section and pitch it.

Many guys get 4 by 8 feet sheets of "bathroom" board from the home improvement places and use it as the "floor" with white seamless. If I had a way to haul it home, that's what I'd be using, then the paper would theoretically last forever.



There'd be a picture of a beautiful girl here on white seamless paper, but the portfolio thing doesn't work with Netcape 7.2.
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Old 02-07-2005, 10:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think you're better off with paper. When it gets dirty you just tear a piece off.

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Old 02-07-2005, 11:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That would probably work OK, but white seamless is cheaper and works well. Unfortunately for me, my shooting space is just barely wider than a roll of seamless so it's a royal pain in the daddy parts to use. I use a big chunk of cheap white muslin from a fabric store (108" wide) and a couple of the bathroom floor panels from Home Depot. The whole setup cost less than $100. The floor panels give you a bit of reflection, but I like the effect as it helps make the model look like she's standing on something.

Here's a couple. Model is Betty Ann from Nashville. I think I talked her into making a portfolio here soon:





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Old 02-07-2005, 11:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thank you all for the input!
Larry, what you have with the bathroom wallboard is exactly the look I want. I prefer it to look like the model is "standing on something". I need to figure out how to store the boards when not in use. It sounds simple, but my room is very small, and some of my family still think it is a family room. I am taking it over .... slowly.
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:52 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Just look in the paneling section of Home Depot, usually near the lumber. The panels are 4x8' and cost around $10 each. They're light enough for one person to carry, so I keep mine in the garage. I'm going to try to sand a couple and paint them glossy black for use with black backgrounds.

Good luck, have fun. BTW, my shooting area was once called a "family room" too.
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This is not normal but, I took advantage of a friends offer.
He is a roofer, and he had some PVC roofing left over from a roof he covered.

The pvc roofing comes in a huge 12 foot wide roll, and I think the total length is like 200 or 300 feet. Anywho, I am not sure of the cost. But the pvc is super easy to clean and oh so nice for many uses including a seemless wrap around backdrop.

Maybe you could check local roofing companies for left over pvc rolled roofing they may have laying around?

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thanks for the tip. i bought a sheet (4x8 - $12). it's called mellamine or something like that (the employees in Home Labrynth call it "floor tile sheets)
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Larry, I really like the way the panels look in your photos! I was just a Lowes and took a look at the panels. I have a couple questions though...

1) You mentioned that you are using the panels in conjuction with white muslin. I was just curious how you had the panels and muslin arranged to make it look seemless and exacty the same color. Do you tuck the muslin under the panel laying on the floor etc?

2) I like how the background is so white it disappears. In a setup like this, how far are you postioning the model from the backdrop?

3) Ok, I lied, I have a 3rd question (hehe) are there any lighting angles to avoid that help keep the glare off the panels down?

Thanks so much. I would really like to test this setup out soon.
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