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To gel or not to gel
Old 02-03-2005, 07:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know where to get the gels...I just need to know what colors to get. So, all you who use gels on your lights, what would you suggest?
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Old 02-03-2005, 08:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Onece again I wish to disqualify myself as a rank amateur glamour photographer but I do shoot lots of other, less intersting stuff.

I have found a couple of sheets of Roscoe polarizing film, big enough to mask 18" reflectors to be extremely useful to polarize light and control reflections. I mean CONTROL reflections, not just eliminate them. You need some power to overcome the attenuation of the lights and the lens polarizer but the applications are all over the place.

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Old 02-03-2005, 08:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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jeez... lots of 'em and from 1/8 to full: bastard amber, amber, blue, red, magenta... you'r shooting flashed/strobes right? so ya don't need big pieces like if were shooting hot lights. in fact, you can use them from the free books over a speedlite's head.
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Old 02-03-2005, 08:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, the polaroid film is NOT heat resistant.
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Most of the gel manufacturers sell a "sample pack" of the most popular gels at a good price. You get several sheets and get a chance to play. They're hoping you get hooked and come back for more!

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Bogen sells such a pack and you don't think of them selling gels.

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My experience, I buy Rosco and Cinelux gels. I spray adhesive onto an 11x14 photo mat,stick the gel to the mat and then cut off the excess. I then use a bogen superclamp, articulating arm and their super clip to hold the gel in front of the light.

I keep the gels stacked vertically in a cardboard box.

I can change gels colors in about 10 seconds this way.

YOu extend the life of the gel this way versus, just taping it over the light, etc.

I kid you not, I have bought over 50 colors searching for a color I can see in my head.

My personal favorite is Rosco 03.

It gives me that nice "playboy" orange color I want.

Be warned, both the advertised description of the gel, and the "appearance" of the gel can fool you. What looks very dark orange might not photograph that way, and what is described as a nice sunset color, might be way more orange than you think, etc.

Trial and error.

I have also stacked gels. I couldn't get a certain color I wanted, so I got some orangish, then some pinkish, and some yellowish, etc colors, and I have used 2 or more at one time to try to get the color I want.

Playing with gels is fun and frustrating at the same time.

I have found that you can get good results by gelling one light, but not the other, and adjusting the "wet/dry" mix of the two lights to get the color you want.

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Old 02-03-2005, 11:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I bought a Roscoe sample pack for $23. It has every color you can think of in it. I just cut them out and stick them over an SB-80 or an old Vivitar 283 for a background light.
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use blue gel for warming in custom white balance
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we do this with video so it should work with digital stills-- i.e., using blue gels to warm via custom white balance. try some blue over your flash head (1/8 to 1/4 depending on how much you want to warm), shoot a white card with the blue-gell'd flash falling on it, custome white balance on the image of the white card and there ya go: warmed images. those expensive warming blue cards should no longer be on your "to buy" list. you can also shoot a white card through the blue gel with it in front of your lens. you can reverse this for a cooling effect by using a pink gel.
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you could'a saved the $23 by getting one of those free little books of gel swatches. they're already precut about the right size to tape over small stroves like your vivitar. they give ya hundreds of samples in those books.
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