Glamour, Beauty, Nude, Models, Photographers


*    |  Register  


 
Go Back   Garage Glamour™ > Garage Glamour™ Main Forums > Tech Talk Forum
Models, Photographers, Makeup Artists, Forums, Photo Tips, Digital Photography
 

Tech Talk Forum Photography & Technical Related Only!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Re: Chrome to Pixels
Old 01-18-2003, 08:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Member GG#: 35265
Location: Reston
Posts: 128
Comments: 0

Lynn_in_VA is offline IP: 68.49.136.81
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

I'm shooting people mostly on 35mm Astia these days, nature on Velvia, having deferred the digital camera purchase in favor of a Nikon SC4000ED scanner.

Getting pretty awesome tiffs from the chromes, too, up to 130M if I pull out all the stops, and there's detail in there that many good labs could never capture with a wet process. Add an Epsoon photo printer, and the 9x12's are top notch, often gotta take a loup to tell they're not wet chemistry.

So don't despair, chromes are still good. Of course, I still have a turntable and tube amps, lol.

Lynn
Image of Angela on Astia, of course the jpeg format loses a lot of detail



home in the garage
  View Public Profile Send a private message to Lynn_in_VA Visit Lynn_in_VA's homepage! Find More Posts by Lynn_in_VA
 
Re: Chrome to Pixels
Old 01-18-2003, 09:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member GG#: 35679
Location: Escondido
Posts: 858
Comments: 0
My Mood:
Send a message via AIM to Soujrnr Send a message via Yahoo to Soujrnr

Soujrnr is offline IP: 68.68.148.252
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Lynn, is this picture of the model from your scanner??? I am having so much trouble getting good, clean scans with my Nikon Coolscan LS2000. They are coming out washed out really bad and even when I try to manipulate the settings on the prescan image to clean it up a bit and bring out some contrast, hue, and saturation, they look like crap. I'd love to have resolution like that.

Mike
  View Public Profile Send a private message to Soujrnr Visit Soujrnr's homepage! Find More Posts by Soujrnr
 
Re: Chrome to Pixels
Old 01-18-2003, 10:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
Free Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Member GG#: 35621
Location: Conway
Posts: 88
Comments: 0

Richie is offline IP: 65.66.69.29
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Has your scanner always behaved like this? You can try updating the software from Nikon. In the worst case, perhaps your scanner should be sent in for service. In the best case, maybe your budget will allow you to upgrade [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

-Richie
  View Public Profile Send a private message to Richie Find More Posts by Richie
 
Re: Chrome to Pixels
Old 01-18-2003, 11:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member GG#: 35679
Location: Escondido
Posts: 858
Comments: 0
My Mood:
Send a message via AIM to Soujrnr Send a message via Yahoo to Soujrnr

Soujrnr is offline IP: 68.68.148.252
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Hi Richie,

Yes, my scanner has always scanned things in a real "milky", for lack of a better word, way. I have to constantly adjust the contrast and everything for just about every scan. It pretty much sucks. I thought after spending a small fortune on a good scanner like the Coolscan that I'd be able to scan my slides and not have to struggle with each one. It got to the point where I didn't even want to scan them anymore because it just wasn't cost effective for me to shoot chrome and then spend hours trying to get 36 slides scanned and catalogued. I've upgraded the software at the Nikon site but still am not getting pleasing results. I may have to upgrade to a better scanner altogether. It sounds like yours does a great job and so I'm going to investigate that one some more.

Thanks. Talk to you later!!

Mike
  View Public Profile Send a private message to Soujrnr Visit Soujrnr's homepage! Find More Posts by Soujrnr
 
Re: Chrome to Pixels
Old 01-19-2003, 12:28 AM   #15 (permalink)
Free Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Member GG#: 35621
Location: Conway
Posts: 88
Comments: 0

Richie is offline IP: 65.66.69.29
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Mike, I just remembered this... I've read, on several occassions, that Nikon color management can be to blame. You can turn it off in the preferences in Nikon Scan 3.1. This may help some, but I'm not sure. I've never had a problem with mine. Most scans do look bad in the initial preview. You will have to do varying amounts of levels and curves tweaks to your scans and possibly even further tweaking in PS. The book I recommended in a previous post has a great deal of information on color correction and other essential photo-editing bits - check it out next time you visit a bookstore. Also check out the Film Scanner forum at Rob Galbraith's site. Search the archives on the forum there and I'm sure someone has encountered your scenario before.

Hope that helps you out some.

-Richie

  View Public Profile Send a private message to Richie Find More Posts by Richie
 
Re: Yes, and...
Old 01-19-2003, 06:01 AM   #16 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Member GG#: 35265
Location: Reston
Posts: 128
Comments: 0

Lynn_in_VA is offline IP: 68.49.136.81
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Mike, Yes that's from the LS4000ED, what I'd love to show you is a 9x12 print on the Epson -- sharp as a knife and vibrant. The jpeg is cut down to 72 pixels/inch of course, and I just cut the print files down to 360 so their difference is remarkable. Here's another recent one from the 4000, again sized at 72 pixels.



But the LS2000 is almost as good, very close to the 4000. Here's an image I scanned a couple of years back on an LS2000 -- now to be fair to the 2000, the scan was just saved in jpeg and this is cropped from maybe 1/4 of the image, but it's not hard to look at, I think.



I've never really tweaked my scanners much, just set them up mostly with defaults and then adjusted the images in Photoshop, it seems easier since I'm still going to be touching them with Photoshop anyhow. The Level histogram is the key to getting rid of muddiness. First crop to the finished size, or at least get rid of any black or white borders you won't have in the finished image. Then open Level and slide the left mark up until you have true blacks (the farther to the right, the higher the resulting contrast), and slide the right mark down until you have the top white point you want. Then fiddle the midpoint -- you can do that basic Lev correction in maybe ten seconds.

If you want, send me a high quality jpeg from your ES2000, and let me see what you're getting, how it compares to what I've been starting with. That would be very interesting!

Lynn
  View Public Profile Send a private message to Lynn_in_VA Visit Lynn_in_VA's homepage! Find More Posts by Lynn_in_VA
 
Thanks Richie!
Old 01-19-2003, 08:43 AM   #17 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member GG#: 35679
Location: Escondido
Posts: 858
Comments: 0
My Mood:
Send a message via AIM to Soujrnr Send a message via Yahoo to Soujrnr

Soujrnr is offline IP: 68.68.148.252
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Thanks Richie! I'll check out the site.

Mike
  View Public Profile Send a private message to Soujrnr Visit Soujrnr's homepage! Find More Posts by Soujrnr
 
Re: Yes, and...
Old 01-19-2003, 08:45 AM   #18 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member GG#: 35679
Location: Escondido
Posts: 858
Comments: 0
My Mood:
Send a message via AIM to Soujrnr Send a message via Yahoo to Soujrnr

Soujrnr is offline IP: 68.68.148.252
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Lynn,

I'll hook my scanner back up (I disconnected it to sell it but haven't had the heart to do it yet) and I'll start scanning some things and send them your way and I'll post some here as well and see what you think. BTW, lovely models in the photos! Tough job but someone has to do it!

Mike
  View Public Profile Send a private message to Soujrnr Visit Soujrnr's homepage! Find More Posts by Soujrnr
 
Re: And yet ANOTHER film question.....*sigh*
Old 01-19-2003, 10:17 AM   #19 (permalink)
Free Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Member GG#: 35614
Location: Jamison
Posts: 12
Comments: 0
Send a message via AIM to willcain Send a message via Yahoo to willcain Send a message via Skype™ to willcain

willcain is offline IP: 68.80.111.231
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

When shooting chromes, I prefer Fuji Provia.
Although I haven't shot film in a long time, since switching to digital in 2000.
Clients that used to prefer chromes, now are more then happy to receive digital images on a CD.

William Thomas Cain
Photojournalist
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


tel: 215-802-1965
e-mail: bill@photodx.com
aim: cainimages

web: www.photodx.com
www.cainimages.com
  View Public Profile Send a private message to willcain Visit willcain's homepage! Find More Posts by willcain
 
Re: Yes, and...
Old 01-19-2003, 02:49 PM   #20 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Member GG#: 35265
Location: Reston
Posts: 128
Comments: 0

Lynn_in_VA is offline IP: 68.49.136.81
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

MIke,

Sounds like a plan. If you have a big file available, hang it on a website somewhere with a link. Size is not a problem. You're right, though -- tough job.

: )

Lynn
  View Public Profile Send a private message to Lynn_in_VA Visit Lynn_in_VA's homepage! Find More Posts by Lynn_in_VA
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Google


New To Site? Need Help? Photographer & Model Links
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:22 PM.

© 1999-2009 Garage Glamour™




Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100