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Dramatic Lighting...
Old 01-16-2003, 03:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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While this probably belongs in the photography forum, and we may move it there later, I wanted to start a discussion--which would include model talent in the images--about dramatic lighting.

Actually, what I think I'm after is this, I've seen too much "blah" what I call flat lighting, which to me is not really flattering to the model. Call it my style. I've been guilty of it too, set a light here, reflector here, and poof, very little shadows, or lack of what they teach in art class, chiaroscuro ; the interaction of lights and darks, shadows to create depth, not flatness.

We see in 3-D, cameras for the most part photograph in 2-D. With that said, here's a couple of images shot at my last Philly workshop in November. The Fuji folks who always attend my workshops bring film and cameras for folks to play with, so I tried out their Neopan, Acros film...which you see in the first image of Candace, and in the second image of Rebecca Teague...make-up by Elise...
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Old 01-16-2003, 03:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am right with ya...I know a lot of my work is less than mainstream, but it often times proves to be a different look for the models.

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Old 01-16-2003, 04:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Jeff,

Thanks for your feedback...mainstream or not, I just like to see variety, something different then the same ole stuff....call it creativity, or just having plain fun following your passions in photography...thanks, here's one more from Philly Workshop, model is Rebecca Teague again...make-up Elise...
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Old 01-16-2003, 04:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What's so great about mainstream. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Glad to see you back on the forum, buddy. As always, a sexy, beautiful shot.

How's life in Tampa? Take a look at my site when you get a chance. Major update over the past several weeks.

When you're unemployed...there are so many better things to do other than look for jobs.
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What's new with you, Jeff?

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Old 01-16-2003, 05:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I haven't been on the forum for a few days - been busy job hunting, working on the web site and some older images...

Come back to post this image and behold, Rolando, you've started a discussion that is perfect for it. Would love to know what you think of it. I like both of yours a lot, although it seems as though the upper left hand corner of shot # 2 got washed out and flattened in comparison to the rest of it - or am I just delusional?

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Old 01-16-2003, 09:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Rolando, I think this one belongs right here. It's all about seeing and picture-taking, not about equipment and such.



This one is from the first set I did of Elkie Cooper. She since has lost the piercings. It's done by window light. The little lip action was her idea, which I think helps the shot.
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a few from me.....
Old 01-16-2003, 09:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This is one some love and others absolutely, but I think the lighting falls into the area of 'dramatic'. It's also a good example of using light reveal and shadow to conceal.

After all, control of light is what its all about.



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Flat is easy......
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.....which is why you see so much of it. It is also popular in portraits with the consumer.....because what they want is a totally visable face to show off to relatives.

Thus, the perception that flat is "good", and shadows are "bad".

Yet, photography is the rendititon of objects as patterns of reflected light. Since light and shadow must interplay to create a "natural" look that would be compatible with natural light, it seems obvious that "dramatic" light, or rather, light that contains a full range of tones with highlights and shadows, should be the most desirable light, as it will be the most complex way to render objects.

While there are no hard and fast rules, I doubt that many would argue against the premise that more complex imagery is usually better, because it is more interesting. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
 
 
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I took A Peter Freed class at photo east..and thought it was cool to hear and see the even with large 5 plus foot defusion sources...you can still get some really dramatic light...I have used my 5 ft octodome( photoflex) placed in the 45 degree position and have gotten a great lighting ratio...
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