Photo Tips Go Now
Glamour, Beauty, Nude, Models, Photographers

*    |  Register  


 
Go Back   Garage Glamour™ > Garage Glamour™ Main Forums > Tech Talk Forum
 

Tech Talk Forum Photography & Technical Related Only!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Newb - Canon Gear/Lighting
Old 01-18-2005, 12:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
jbpjr
Guest
 
Member GG#:
Posts: n/a
Comments:

IP: 68.209.223.234
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Hey guys, first post. I'm just starting out in the glamour realm, (with only a little other photo experience) and I have a coupla gear questions.

Right now I have a Canon Elan 7e, 70-200 f4l, and a 420ex. I'm looking to go digital for a variety of reasons. 1, there aren't many good labs in my area. 2, the instant feedback of digital. It would kill me to spend a whole day shooting just to find out later I screwed up something silly days later, or worse that the lab screwed something up. I also already have a good computer/photoshop/monitor set up and would prefer to skip scanning.

I've been looking hard at the 20D/17-85IS combo kit. One of my concerns is that with digital my 70-200 becomes a 112-320(?) and maybe not the best option for this kinda work. I've also thought about just buying the body, and getting a 85mm 1.8 instead, but it too gets a good bit longer. Am I better off just sticking with the 70-200 at the short end? Any experiences with these lenses would be appreciated.

My other question is about lighting. I currently have the 420EX. I was thinking about getting a good used 550ex to go with it and use the two as my primary gear while I'm learning as the 20d will eat up my available cash, and it will be a while before I can spend on lighting. Any thoughts or experiences with this type of setup would be appreciated. Would it be better just to shoot available light until I can afford full fledged lighting gear?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and advice.

Brad

 
 
Re: Newb - Canon Gear/Lighting
Old 01-18-2005, 12:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
Free Member

 
R_Fredrick_Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Member GG#: 35872
Location: Dallas/Fort Worth Area
Posts: 3,660
Comments: 41

R_Fredrick_Smith is offline IP: 67.162.234.198
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

The two lens you mention will cover the whole range that you normally need for glamour. You'll have the 17 (27.2mm) for the wide angle end all the way up to the 200 (320mm) for the telephoto end. I personally use a Tamron 17-35 DI lens for my wide angle end and a Tamron 28-300 for the telephoto end. I find I use the Tamron 28-300 for most of my shooting. I've found it to be very sharp and easy to use and its always worked well for me.
I have a 420 EX that I use only for casual shots for candids etc. If you're going to do much glamour, you'll be better off to invest in some strobes like the Alien Bees, for example. I wouldn't get anymore of the EX series since its too expensive and for the same money you can get a Bee or two and they'll give you a lot more power.
For the time being, just get a couple of good reflectors. Those and a window will give you wonderful indoor lighting. Here is a sample:



Cheers,
rfs
  View Public Profile Send a private message to R_Fredrick_Smith Visit R_Fredrick_Smith's homepage! Find More Posts by R_Fredrick_Smith
 
Re: Newb - Canon Gear/Lighting
Old 01-18-2005, 02:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Member GG#: 40641
Location: Sparks, NV
Posts: 375
Comments: 0

DanNV is offline IP: 134.197.92.150
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

I went from a Elan7E to a 20d last fall. I ended up with a Tamron 28-75 XR Di. It's a faster lense than the 17-85 and from what I've seen, is sharper, too. Give Jason at Unique a call. He got me both the body and the lense and the transactions were very smooth.

Dan
  View Public Profile Send a private message to DanNV Find More Posts by DanNV
 
Re: Newb - Canon Gear/Lighting
Old 01-18-2005, 02:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
Free Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Member GG#: 41395
Location: Bradley
Posts: 40
Comments: 0
Send a message via MSN to HankP

HankP is offline IP: 209.131.215.22
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

I am new to this kind of photography also, been shooting wildlife/nature stuff for about 3 years now and it's time to try something new.
My digital is a digital rebel and I plan to use my toknia 28/80 f2.8 lens
give me a 45/128 lens which I think will work. I also need help with lighting and background selection.
any help would be apprecated.
  View Public Profile Send a private message to HankP Find More Posts by HankP
 
Re: Newb - Canon Gear/Lighting
Old 01-18-2005, 03:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
jbpjr
Guest
 
Member GG#:
Posts: n/a
Comments:

IP: 68.209.223.234
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Ah I had forgotten about Alien Bees. Might be able to swing a coupla those. Thanks for the advice.
 
 
Re: Newb - Canon Gear/Lighting
Old 01-18-2005, 03:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
jbpjr
Guest
 
Member GG#:
Posts: n/a
Comments:

IP: 68.209.223.234
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

I've heard horror stories about canon bodies and non-canon lenses, but that tamrom seems to have some good reviews and sharp images out there. I'll take a look at it. Thanks!
 
 
Re: Newb - Canon Gear/Lighting
Old 01-18-2005, 04:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Member GG#: 40641
Location: Sparks, NV
Posts: 375
Comments: 0

DanNV is offline IP: 134.197.92.150
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

You're welcome.

I read through everything I could find on the dpreview canon lense forum and found most people really liked the lense, so I ordered one. I don't regret it at all. It's a great lense. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Dan
  View Public Profile Send a private message to DanNV Find More Posts by DanNV
 
Re: Newb - Canon Gear/Lighting
Old 01-18-2005, 04:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
Free Member

 
R_Fredrick_Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Member GG#: 35872
Location: Dallas/Fort Worth Area
Posts: 3,660
Comments: 41

R_Fredrick_Smith is offline IP: 67.162.234.198
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

There have been horror stories but almost always they have been with other brands of lens other than Tamron. Tamron actually makes some of Canon's lens and they seem to be 100% compatible. I have used 5 different Tamron lens over the years and they have all worked perfectly and still do. The 28-75 DI was a great lens also that I used for awhile, but traded for a wider angle 17-35 DI since that fits my needs better. But I miss the 2.8 that it gave me in that 28-75 range.
Cheers,
rfs
  View Public Profile Send a private message to R_Fredrick_Smith Visit R_Fredrick_Smith's homepage! Find More Posts by R_Fredrick_Smith
 
Re: Newb - Canon Gear/Lighting
Old 01-19-2005, 03:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
Free Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Member GG#: 36117
Location: Hiram
Posts: 141
Comments: 0

C_J_Samples is offline IP: 69.241.0.124
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

70-200 works fine for glamour. The Tamron is a great lens as well. I shoot with a 10D and a friend shoots with a 20D, we both own the Tamron 28-75.


Chris Graphic Images
  View Public Profile Send a private message to C_J_Samples Visit C_J_Samples's homepage! Find More Posts by C_J_Samples
 
Re: Newb - Canon Gear/Lighting
Old 01-21-2005, 10:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
JohnPaul
Guest
 
Member GG#:
Posts: n/a
Comments:

IP: 66.94.222.83
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote



Yes, with the format of the CMOS found on the 20D, there is a "conversion factor"..of 1.6x However, it doesn't multiplu the focal length of the lens at all ...not like their 1.4x and 2.0 x teleconverters...it simply crops 1.6 times tighter in the frame so you have to get back further away from your subject in order to get the same composition as you did with your film camera body.. which is one of the reasons why I have stressed to photogs to but the 70-200mm f2.8 L lens over the f4 L lens because of the already increased depth of field in your shots..so,...to "lessen" this, all you can do is shoot wide open..and watch your backgrounds.. You might want to sell that lens, and try picking up a used 80-200mm f2.8 L lens for about the same price as you get for your lens...or try finding a 70-200mm f2.8 L lens..if you plan on using the 20D body.. I have two of them now...and I like them a lot.. they are good cameras.. and I have owned D30 and 10D bodies before this..

JP
 
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Canon EOS 30D Digital SLR Camera & Canon....$550USD upsales Model Topics 1 07-07-2010 11:02 PM
Lens Quality? Sigma vs Canon LePhoto Tech Talk Forum 21 12-23-2006 02:00 AM
Nikon D200 and Sigma lenses. Driftwood Tech Talk Forum 9 01-05-2006 06:08 PM
Nikon vs Canon objektiv Tech Talk Forum 9 02-11-2005 12:12 AM

Sponsors


New To Site? Need Help? Photographer & Model Links
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:25 AM.

© 1999-2017 Garage Glamour™




Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93