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Old 01-06-2005, 11:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay... Heres the dilema. So I'm shooting portraits with my Nikon UN Coolpix 8700
and get my lights all set. Then I take a light reading and get a value of 2.0 @ 1/125 @ ISO 100. Ok. Great. So then I switch to manual shooting mode and guess what happens. I can't dial it in to less than 2.8. So I dial in a -1.0 on the ev setting which stops down the exposure, but get this... When I move the tripod, it keeps metering or changing my aperture around. If manual mode is manual mode, why can't I freakin' just dial in the aperture? HELP! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]


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Re: Nikon digital question...
Old 01-07-2005, 12:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Set your aperture to f2.8 or f4. Adjust your lights until that's what your meter reads. Don't screw around with any other settings.

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Good question. I think your 8700 will max out at f 2.8 and ASA equiv. of 50. The electronics will not allow you wo operate outside of this limit. Where your shutter speed is manually set, you have sent the elecronics to never-land.

Change ASA (higher), shutter speed (slower) or add more light if you need to maintain the f-stop.

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This is an interesting question. I think its because once you're in manual mode, settings like +/-EV have no effect - they only adjust how the meter is telling the camera to function in one of the auto modes. Manual settings are absolute because I use a seperate hand-held meter for my readings. I can set the ISO on the camera to anything and it will have no effect on the exposure, but that's when I use a film camera, and I compensate for the intentional underexposure by pushing the film. I guess the way you tell a digital camera to "push" the "film" is by setting the ISO higher, but if you're not using the camera's auto-exposure functions, I'm not sure how it knows what the ISO is. I would guess just setting the ISO one stop higher (to 200) would tell the camera that you're "pushing", even without the internal meter being used at all (in manual mode).

I'll be interested to hear anyone else's explaination.

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Re: Nikon digital question...
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Well that's fine but it sounds to me as if he is using hot lights. Not so easy to set lights.

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Re: All very interesting
Old 01-07-2005, 02:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input guys. I'm using yinyan strobes in a 40x20 room with 8' ceilings, but kind of around furniture so quarters are closer than i would like. I took my readings with a Sekonic l308b set at ISO 100. I took another set a little while ago with the key set to full and the fill was off to get a more dramatic effect, anyways, the reading came out 5.8 @ 1/250. I got better results this time and moved my model further from the background to soften the detail. I got slighty more pleasing results, but I am still disappointed with not being able to really open up the ap to about 1.4 to blow out more background detail and shorter depth of field. Thanks again. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-07-2005, 02:47 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Just tried this and I'm really happy with the results. Thank you.

I've been watching this forum for a while now, but I'm not that adept at posting yet. Sorry I can't post the images yet but I'm working on it. You all are a great help.
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