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Old 01-05-2005, 01:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This printer.....SUCKS!!!!!

Every time I print something with the same settings, it's a different freakin color! I've done everything Epson says to do, even called them to get tech support- All they do is read the freakin book to me. I can print the same damn page twice with the same settings and one time it is pinkish..the next time yellowish. I've followed the directions on all the links everyone sent me, and it still doesn't work.

Advice.....BUY A FREAKIN CANON!

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Re: EPSON R800
Old 01-05-2005, 03:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've heard that before on the R800. I use the R300 and have never have problems with it. Not saying Epson is the best though. I've had very good luck with Canon also.
I'm torn b/t them.

I also found out about Epson's "tech support". Basically just people that get paid to read the instruction manuals. Sometimes they even give you a website for support...I did that once...it was a PDF of the manual.
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have had no problems like that, mine have been color calibration problems...but I think I am thru all of that. I like mine now, however I was going to throw it out of the window about 2 months ago.
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Re: EPSON R800
Old 01-05-2005, 04:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What software are you printing from?? Are you using the ICC profiles? What color space are you printing from?

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Re: EPSON R800
Old 01-05-2005, 06:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, I have been trying from bothe Illustrator and Photoshop CS. I took a photo of a kitchen, converted it to CMYK using US Web Coated SWOP (that's the standard the finished design will be printed with), brought the photo into the same color space in Illustrator, completed the design, used the correct color management profile for the paper I'm using, turned off color correction in the driver software, printed, and BARF, it puked all over the paper.

So, I then brought the entire design into Photoshop as a TIFF, printed with preview, went through all the same steps, looked at a preview (looked dead on accurate), printed, and, this time, it looked even worse.

I finally played with the Epson color management, tweaked the brightness and contrast, and got a halfway descent print. I was ready to dance. So, I printed another page with a photo of the same kitchen, using the same settings, and I may as well have used the paper to blow my nose, cuz it was a snot-colored yellow in the highlights. I checked all the inks, etc, and I now have no idea what the flip happened.

I even made sure the Gamma was set correctly.
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Old 01-05-2005, 06:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ya, I'll keep playing. I've always owned an epson and I always loved it. I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't related to OSX, colorsync, etc. I started having trouble with my old epson right about the time I bought the new G-5. Who knows, too many variables.

Thanks for the input and the inspirational photo!
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Old 01-05-2005, 06:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, I imagine if they hired people that knew what to tell you, the printer would cost double [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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you are printing CMYK on a RGB device. Start over with a RGB file. Do not start over with a file already converted to CMYK.

The CMYK gamut is MUCH smaller than RGB, so when a RGB file is converted to CMYK gobs of color data is thrown away you can not get it back.

Use ADOBE RGB 1998 as your working space.

Also make sure you are printing on Epson paper it can make a big difference.

However all of this may not solve all of your problems.

Maybe if you resort to resetting to default on both your printer and your photoshop, if everything else fails.

You do have a good printer.

Hope this helps

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BTW are you on a Mac or a PC?
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Old 01-05-2005, 07:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I understand there is a gamut difference between RGB/CMYK, that's why I have the color space set in Photoshop and Illustrator to replicate what it looks like. I know it's correct, because the stuff I print on an offset press looks very accurate to my monitor. And, I thought, just in case this was the problem, I'd try an RGB photo. And it looked just as bad. I even tried setting the settings to vivid color (I already wasted half my ink on trying everything else, so I figured what's a little more). I mean, the thing has 8 ink cartriges for cryin out loud (for those unfamiliar...C, M, Y, K, another Black, R, B, and clear), it should be able to pull off color that a press can't. I know this is supposed to be the greatest printer, but I'm kinda frustrated right now. I look at stuff I was printing a year ago (from CMYK files), and compare it to what I have now, and it just does not look as good.
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I am also using Epson Paper and Epson Ink.
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