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Old 12-06-2004, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm considering purchasing the JTL B-909 background support system. Although this is a portable kit I plan to use it within my humble studio for the most part.

Has anyone had any experience with this system? For the price (approx $130.00), is there anything out there that may be a better system comparable in price?

Any feedback on this would be great.

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Re: Background Support System Question:
Old 12-06-2004, 11:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Buy 2 Bogen Superclamps. They go on top of any lightstand.
Cost about 30.00 each.
Go to home depot. Get a closet rod that expands from 8 to 12 feet (cost 14.00).
Buy 2 economy lightstands.

The superclamps have a hole in them for attaching to a lightstand. The "clamp" part of the clamp will hold any size dowel rod from pencil thin to about 2.5 inches.

You can run a dowel rod, pipe, closet rod, piece of rebar, piece of plastic pipe, or even a piece of lumber between two lightstands with the "superclamps" on top. The superclamps will hold square or round objects.

If you run a piece of 2x4 between the 2 stands, you can tack or staple fabric to the wood in a folded pattern to look like drapes, etc.

You can always use the lightstands for other purposes.

You can use the Super Clamps for other purposes.

The stands that are often sold as backdrop supports are cheap and crappy.

The cross rod is often crappy.

The white closet rod sold at home depot is quite sturdy and cheap.

The Bogen Superclamps can be "clamped" on a table, bookshelf, or any tube, and can double as a light holder.

You can attach a tripod head to a super clamp, and have a portable tripod.

If you aren't familiar with Bogen "superclamps" you are missing out. They come in handy for all kinds of uses.

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Old 12-06-2004, 11:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have one of the jtl background sets and I am very happy with it. The 900 series stands are pretty good quality. I bought an additional rod and triple hanger so it would ease swapping things around.
If I had it to do over again, I would do the superclamp route as it would make more sense in the longrun.

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Re: keep it cheap
Old 12-07-2004, 01:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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In a studio installation, I use a 10' wooden dowel, 2" in diameter, with a screw eye in either end. I hang two pulley & rope setups, and feed them to one point on a side wall, attached to a clete. On the other end I use those fasteners that slide with a spring, to open temporarily and attach to the screw eyes on either end. Not only does this cost less than $25 in wood, hardware & rope, but you avoid having any addtional stands and such on the floor. You slide the roll of seamless onto the dowel, and attach it to the fastener, then pull up the ropes. You can hang other materials by clamping them ("A" clamps from the hardware store) to the dowel. We had three sets of such dowels in my last studio, and we could hang hair lights and props from the dowel as well. You will probably have to "A" clamp one edge of the paper roll to the dowel to keep it from unrolling.

When I go on location it gets even cheaper. I take a couple of light stands or "C" stands, and take an "A" clamp, and invert it like a "V" onto the top of the light stand. Then you lay the dowel between the two "V"s and raise the light stands to the height you want (with the roll of paper already on it, and unroll what you need). If you're worried about tipover you can put sandbags at the base. I like superclamps, but didn't neet them for this purpose.

We had two pairs of those aluminum pole things, and they lived in the corner of the studio for 12 years, never used.

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Here is what I have been using it works well and breaks down easy for location shoots.
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has a great Backgrond stand for $149, it is often on sale for $129.

I have one and it works great
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Thank you all for your replies...
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...and feedback, you folks rock!
After further review I believe I will be giving the JTL's a shot.

Wish me luck.

Thanks again,
Rick
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