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Why Use a Beauty Dish?
Old 11-30-2004, 08:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've reading a lot about beauty dishes lately. Can anyone explain why they are used and when to usd them?
 
 
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Old 11-30-2004, 09:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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OK, no one has replyed, so I have to ask. What IS a beauty dish? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] My mind conjures up images of a make up palette of sorts, yet I am pretty sure that is not what is being refered to.

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Old 11-30-2004, 09:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I know it's a light modifier of some sort and it looks like a dish with a light in middle. But when would you use such a device?
 
 
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Old 11-30-2004, 09:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Steve

I have this smart-ass urge to say "For Beauty Shots!" -- but I'm an admin and I have to be nice....

That is what a beauty dish is for -- headshots and beauty shots. It's a softbox that has more than four corners and isn't flat across the face. It allows the light to wrap around the subject a bit better. Great for beauty shots.....

Bob

NOT done with a beauty dish -- but you get the idea.... A beauty dish probably would have minimized or eliminated the shadow under her chin.

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Old 11-30-2004, 09:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks, Bob. I'd like to see some shots comparing results attained using a beauty box versus a soft box. I wonder if anybody can post that on here.
 
 
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There was a post in the Tech Talk Forum just about 2 weeks ago about Beauty Dishes. We posted sample images and everyone gave their 2 cents about which they liked better (compared to other light forms, softboxes, etc) See if you can look back and find that post.

I have a 24 inch Photogenic Beauty Dish. It's like a big aluminum pasta bowl with a little 3 inch insert in the middle. The light from the bulb hits the insert and then bounces all around the dish, and then spills out onto the model.

I can remove the insert so some of the light goes straight at the model while a bunch of it bounces around the dish and spills out at the model. It's obviously much "hotter" with the insert removed. Some places make, or you can make your own "diffuser sock" that goes over the whole thing made of sheer fabric so the light bounces around the dish and then as it spills out has to go through the fabric for even more diffusion.

Why use it compared to a light box or umbrella, or flat panel, or small pan or snoot.....well, for the same reason they make snoots, small pans, flat panels and light boxes.

They each have their own characteristics.

My beauty dish provides a nice poppy yet diffused light source that I really like. It's "harder" than a softbox, but not as hard as a bare bulb (ovbiously). Compared to a shoot through or bounce back umbrella, it is more distinct.

It's not as harsh as a ring light but close.

The dish I have for my Photogenic Powerlights was under $200.00 and I'm quite happy I bought it. At that price it was actually cheaper than some of the bigger softboxes I have.

On the other hand, I have seen them that attach to my Profotos or other brands that are six or seven hundred dollars....I'm not sure I want one that bad.

I've seen photos of dishes that are substantially bigger like 30 or 36 inches. I bet one of those would be cool.

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the past thread with images can be found by running a search with the name "beauty dish" using the search function.

It is entitled "photek Softlighter II vs. Beauty Dish" or something like that.

You'll find it.

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Thanks, I'm searching for it right now.
 
 
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A beauty dish....ahhh the joys of light modifiers....A beauty dish can be used numerious ways....here are a few....

Beauty


Swimwear



Headshots


Fashion


It all depends on how you want to use it.....it modifys the light....past that its all up to you...it is one versitle modifier though....

And yes all of the above WERE shot with a beauty dish aka mola....jsut different sized ones...some with diffuser socks...others 2 feet away from the model....you get the drift..

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Courtesy of our friends at B&H (sorry Jason). This one is for Norman, but they're all pretty much the same. The lamphead inserts behind the small disk in the middle so the light doesn't hit the subject directly, but rather is bounced off the dish.



It's a pretty broad light, and I prefer an umbrella or softbox as a beauty light for more control. I have a grid that fits over the front of mine and use it all the time like this as the only main light source (in other words, a wide grid spot) from across a room so it has a crisp edge. (Model: Yvette Nelson)



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