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Nikon D100 or Fuji S2
Old 01-05-2003, 12:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am going to buy one or the other in the next two weeks..
Need your comments on which one I should buy..is the Fuji worth extra $400...NikonD100 $1999 FujiS2 $2399.

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Re: Nikon D100 or Fuji S2
Old 01-05-2003, 05:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I just did this evaluation myself. I bought the S2. Here's why:

1) 12MP vs 6MP -- the S2 is "interpolated" but it's still 12MP

2) b&w capture -- I think that the b&w capture in the camera is better than desaturating in Photoshop. You certainly have to screw around much more with a desaturated image to make it the right balance of tones and contrasts.

3) Color -- I think the Fuji electronics have better color than the Sony electronics in the D100.

4) PC synch -- the S2 has one, the D100 doesn't

5) batteries -- the S2 uses AA, the D100 has a rechargable. You can always pay the extra $200 and get the grip for the D100 that takes AAs. I like having AAs cause you can't recharge a battery on top of a mountain with a three mail hike back to the car!

Actually that's one advantage that the D100 has -- the battery grip has a vertical shutter release. Nice feature.

The bodies are the same -- in fact the D100, S2 and 14n are all the N80 body.

Any specifics feel free to post 'em or shoot me an e-mail!

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Re: Nikon D100 or Fuji S2
Old 01-05-2003, 07:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Randy,

For what it's worth, I don't have a S2 but I do have a S1 and it is a fantastic camera. I have read a lot on other forums and both are very good but from what I have seen the S2 just wins out over the D100.

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Re: Nikon D100 or Fuji S2
Old 01-05-2003, 10:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Randy,

I for one use the D100....and honestly have no complaints. Ill answer some points raised as well as add some links that might help you...

1. Battery...I have the optional add-on battery pack for the D100 and so have two of the rechargeable batteries in it. Charged when I first got the camera....have shot probably 500 or so pics and still haven’t recharged and those do include some pics using the onboard flash...

2. B&W capture……have to agree I do miss this….

3. Color this is a personal call….it breaks down to octagon vs. square ccd

4. PC Sync…tough call here I use a microdrive and so simply pop it out and into my computer…Never been one for hooking my camera to my pc so this has never been a problem….

5. The 12 x 6.1 mp…well this breaks down to while interpolating an image may increase color depth….you can’t really make something from nothing….and you can use genuine fractals to interpolate the Nikon images as well…

6. ISO…..personally I don’t like the fact the d100 starts at 200

Check out the links below…and good luck with your decision….

http://www.bythom.com/s2d100.htm Great article and nonbiased…he praises and badmouths both

http://www.digitaloutput.net/current...ighlight2.html Scroll down for the review of the both

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/S2/S2P.HTM A great review of the Fuji



But Hey if you have a choice…look for a used D1 …with the firmware upgrade and new software it holds its own against both.


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The 2 reasons I bought the D-100
Old 01-06-2003, 09:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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1) Faster flash sync speed. 1/180 on the D-100 and 1/125 on the F2. If you shoot outside alot it will make a differance.

2) The D-100 will work well with the SB80DX flash, and it works in all modes.
The F2 will only work in some modes. The auto fill matrix metering is my fav.

I shoot large, 2 photographer weddings. The other photographer I work with uses the F2. The big differance is his ability to use a flash outside. We do all the images in color. He uses the pc outlet to plug in for his 2nd light I use the pc outlet on the flash. He carries 8 extra batteries in his pocket, I carry the spare battery for the D-100 and 4 rechargable AA for the flash.
We have found little differance. I have picked up the F2 to look through but have never shot an image with it.

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I bought the S2
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and have been very happy with it. I went from a D1 where I had to always adjust the color to now where things look about perfect right from the camera. Now I'll just adjust levels, but don't have to deal with color balance. You should read dpreview.com there are many comparisons between the cameras. I do miss the vertical grip, but am getting used to being without it. I have been able to sync witha pc cord higher than 1/125. I believe 1/180 worked fine.

As far as price give Victor Frey at Alkit camera a call.
He will beat both those prices and has all USA merchandise.
His number is 212-462-0070 x703 and tell him I sent you.

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D100 and here\'s why
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The S2 is based on the N80, while the D100 is it's own animal. The D100 is significantly, no, miles ahead of the N80 in regards to focusing and metering. I have both the N80 and D100 and in low light studio situations, the D100 will spend a lot less time hunting for your subject while the N80 is don't it's best R2D2 impression. The metering on the D100 is also significantly more accurate in back-light and low light situations.

The rest, resolutions, features and so are up to personal preference.

Oh, don't bother with AAs in the grip on the D100, they only last hours, the Nikon battery packs last all day. In fact, if I was to do it again, I wouldn't bother with the veritcal/grip, battery pack. I don't find it all that useful and even though I'm using it now, it may end up on EBay. By the 18-35 ED instead with money, with the $100 rebate, it's the deal of the week now. Do by at least two the the Nikon battery packs though.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Joel

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I want to thank everyone for their responses...I will let you know what I deceided on soon..

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Re: Nikon D100 or Fuji S2
Old 01-07-2003, 03:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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After a *LOT* of research and soul searching, I purchased an S2 in early August - and have not regretted my decision.

Common features:

- both based on the Nikon N80

- both can take excellent photographs

- both can take any AF F-mount lens, and most AI / AIS manual lenses (but you lose metering)

In favor of S2:

- The images are sharper out of the camera than with the D100 (however if you always shoot raw and sharpen during post processing there is little difference)

- The colors are more pleasing (to me at least) out of the camera

- ISO100 available (minimum ISO200 on D100)

- PC sync terminal on the camera

- firewire connection capability

- the 12Mp files really do have more resolution than the 6Mp files; if I had to guess maybe 9Mp worth of detail

- eight shot buffer for bursts @ 2FPS (vs. 4 shot at 3FPS on D100)

- TTL flash without needing DX series of flashes

- uses standard AA batteries, I've gotten 900 shots off one set of 1800mAh bats

In favor of the D100:

- officially supported 1/180th flash sync (unofficially works on S2 pro from sync terminal or non-intelligent flashes)

- 1/2 or 1/3rd stop grain exposure compensation (vs. only 1/2 stop on S2)

- available portrait grip

- ISO3200 / ISO6400 available (but noisly, can underexpose -1 and -2 EV on the S2 for similar effect)

The bottom line is that both are excellent cameras, and only you can decide which suits your workflow better. Personally, I am glad I chose the S2.

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