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Photek Softliter II vs \"Beauty Dish\"
Old 10-26-2004, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My main interested is taking portrait photography. I have some particular interested in taking evenly lit high key images.

I have some White Lightnin strobes and I am trying to decide what would be best for me to get between their beauty dish or the Photek Softlighter II .

Some of my criteria is something easy to setup on location and versatile enough once I decide to experiment with other setups like low key images, side lighthing, etc..

An example of what I would like to do is the image below. While I took the image the lighting was setup by someone else and I did not really see what they did (during JT's workshop in Tampa). I remember that two lights were used.

Model: Crystal


This image is a little "harsher" than what I am looking for and that is why I am leaning towards something with softer light but I hope you understand the look I am looking for.

These images were actually natural light images that I would like to able to replicate in a studio...

Model: Mikaila




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Re: Photek Softliter II vs \"Beauty Dish\"
Old 10-26-2004, 11:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If memory serves me correctly......

In this particular shot we just shot it in the garage on the white dry wall using the soft lighter and I believe just an umbrella underneath. The softlighter was one stop higher then the fill umbrella underneath. We didn't typically light it for high key as we had an over and under set up with the two lights mentioned. It was designed to show utilizing two lights simply in a garage can produce some pleasing results.

My recommendation for this main lighting set up would be to use the beauty dish on top and the fill light underneath being a strip dome or a medium soft box.

How you light your high key is a different story but most use two additional lights on the sides or behind the seamless.

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Re: Photek Softliter II vs \"Beauty Dish\"
Old 10-26-2004, 11:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks... so that was a Softliter...did not even know.

With you recomending a beauty dish now I am really confused. I don't want to get both as I am still self teaching myself to work with artificial light and don't want to go on a buying spree until I know what I really need...

I am an outdoor light guy trying to learn a little studio stuff.

Model: Lauren
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Re: Photek Softliter II vs \"Beauty Dish\"
Old 10-26-2004, 11:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Here is my recommendation

A large soft box for main - Multi Dome from Photoflex

A medium soft box for fill, but for high key, I generally use just one soft box and two background lights to light the seamless.

In my opinion this will cover a better base of studio main lighting techniques. The beauty dish has it's own purpose and it takes certain subjects and make up to pull a good beauty dish lighting design in to place.

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\"Beauty Dish\" any examples?
Old 10-27-2004, 02:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have been looking at getting the dish from AB. Can anyone post a few shots done with one? I would appreciate knowing the effect it will give with and without the diffuser sock.

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Re: Photek Softliter II vs \"Beauty Dish\"
Old 10-27-2004, 09:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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funny JT -- i actually use a beauty dish 80% of the time. unless i want a really directional light source... i'll go with the dish. i find it to be much more versatile than a softbox. you can make it look really soft or go harsher with the light quality.









all of these were shot with a beauty dish.


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Re: Photek Softliter II vs \"Beauty Dish\"
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Photogenic Beauty Dish main

12x18 softbox for hair light.

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Photoflex 5ft ocotobox (only)
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Photogenic Beauty Dish main

12x18 softbox for hair light

I have a couple of octoboxes, a couple or large, medium and small softboxes, and grids, snoots, etc.

I really like the Beauty dish. It is "poppy" compared to a softbox. I've never tried it with a diffusion sock.

The five foot octobox or a 3x4 softbox both produce nice light.

I think, the softboxes are more "versatile" but that may jut be my opinion.

The price is about the same.

Setting up a sofbox is a little more work.

Either are good pieces of gear.

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Re: Photek Softliter II vs \"Beauty Dish\"
Old 10-27-2004, 02:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I like to latitude you have with a Beauty dish. As noted by others it can be quite dramatic or, as in this case, quite soft. Shot with a beauty dish main and a small kicker (fine grid) to the back/side.

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